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Date:      Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:03:03 -0500
From:      Ron McDowell <rcm@fuzzwad.org>
To:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, eculp <eculp@encontacto.net>
Subject:   Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer.
Message-ID:  <4E2CA4A7.7020100@fuzzwad.org>
In-Reply-To: <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org>
References:  <20110724162937.33865zm0kn4ztdwk@econet.encontacto.net> <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org>

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Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 07/24/11 16:29, eculp wrote:
>> I have been hearing about a new installer but I obviously have not 
>> payed enough attention, I am afraid. I started running freebsd at 2.0 
>> and never really had a problem with understanding the installation 
>> program.  There is always a first time, I guess.
>>
>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201105/
>>
>> When booting I seem to get a screen that makes me remember installer 
>> screens of the 1980s.  (They were not exactly intuitive.)
>>
>> I somehow got the idea that the new installer was graphic.  Maybe 
>> something like PCBsd that is not bad at all.  I use it on all our 
>> employees computers.  Actually, after seeing this, I would love to 
>> have the old installer back.  Is their an option for that?
>>
>> Does this new ASCII installer have a "how to" with a bit of 
>> information on the flow of the installation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> Can you please describe what you didn't like about it, and what you 
> would prefer be changed? "Reminiscent of the 1980s" is not really 
> helpful, especially given that the new installer in fact looks very 
> much like sysinstall, which you seemed to like.
> -Nathan
>

I'll have to agree with the original poster.  I have no problem with the 
look and feel of the new installer, but when functionality that WAS 
there is now gone, that's a problem.  My two, make that three, biggest 
gripes are:

1) no "back" button/selection/mechanism on each screen.   Rebooting 
because I fat-fingered something on the previous screen is, well, 
unacceptable.
2) no "minimal" install.  Most of my installs are single- or few-task 
servers where I need a base os and a couple ports.
3) I see no "post-install" uses on the new one.  Sysinstall could be 
used on an up-and-running system to do everything from adding a user to 
changing a nameserver and more.

-- 
Ron McDowell
San Antonio TX






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