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Date:      Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:59:02 -0500
From:      Jedi Tek'Unum <jedi@jeditekunum.com>
To:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Cc:        ian@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Options for FBSD support with LCD device - new project
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I=E2=80=99ve been lurking here for some time. Long time (commercial) =
unix expert. Not much FBSD.

I=E2=80=99m running Linux right now on NanoPi NEO (Allwinner H3) and NEO =
2 (Allwinner H5). Not because I love Linux (I don=E2=80=99t) but because =
it works out of the box including I2C. I=E2=80=99d really like to use =
FBSD on them. I hope that they will reach the same maturity as BB soon.

Perhaps I=E2=80=99m wrong but my impression following this list and =
searching around is that I2C and SPI are not =E2=80=9Cout of the box=E2=80=
=9D with FBSD on these platforms.

I=E2=80=99m not all that familiar with FDT. I=E2=80=99d like to learn =
how to master it. If I understood it better I could probably bring =
anything I needed to life. BUT, that is back burner to actually =
completing the projects I=E2=80=99m trying to complete (where I just =
need I2C access from user land). I really need those things to just work =
out of the box for now - or have clear instructions on how to enable.

In short I can=E2=80=99t use FBSD yet because it doesn=E2=80=99t appear =
ready for these kinds of apps on these devices. I greatly appreciate all =
the effort that has and is going on to get there. If I had the knowledge =
I=E2=80=99d love to help, but I don=E2=80=99t currently.

Perhaps I=E2=80=99ve just not searched and read enough to find the jewel =
document that explains all the FDT magic in sufficient detail. By that I =
mean *current* FDT magic (which is another confusing aspect as things =
seem to be in flux).

Any advice on these matters greatly appreciated.


> On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> I would never recommend that anybody use any flavor of rpi for any
> purpose at all.  The hardware sucks, and the support is minimal,
> because all of us developers hate working on it (because it sucks so
> much).
>=20
> The BB isn't too bad, it's just ancient and crippled -- single core at
> low clock speeds.
>=20
> Really, an Allwinnner-based board is your best bet.  I'll let the
> various users and supporters of the AW stuff recommend specific models
> (I don't have any AW hardware, I have all I can do supporting imx6
> these days).
>=20
> The stuff you'll find on the wiki is mostly ancient news that hasn't
> been updated in years.
>=20
> -- Ian
>=20
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