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Date:      Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:40:05 -0500
From:      Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
To:        Soren Kristensen <soren@soekris.com>
Cc:        Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: if_fxp - the real point
Message-ID:  <5.0.0.25.0.20010329212102.03dc5ac0@mail.etinc.com>
In-Reply-To: <3AC3D152.7D0FD148@soekris.com>
References:  <5.0.0.25.0.20010328165848.03e9bcd0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010329183557.030eeda0@mail.etinc.com>

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At 07:20 PM 03/29/2001, Soren Kristensen wrote:

>Sorry everybody, I have to express my opinion now.
>
>Dennis, it seems like that you keep repeating yourself here....
>And you keep being wrong. As a hardware designer myself, I can
>assure you that there is no connection between hardware quality
>and level of documentation.
>
>And having fought with Intel getting documentation myself on other
>parts, I have long time ago decided to only use Intel parts if I
>really have to, just like more and more engineers decides.


Im sure that Intel is really sweating over your decision.

Using yourself as an example was brilliant. YOU are exactly the kind of 
engineer/company that I am talking about. YOU will release your design 
specs so the FreeBSD community will get to use your hardware instead of 
intels. Wooopee do.


>Most other vendors, incl the best ones, don't have any problem
>releasing full documentation.


3com never has, nor has intel,and they generally are considered top 
vendors. Still zero valid points. Dlink and realtek are clone vendors, as 
are kingston and most others. The 2 market leaders dont release their docs.


>Intel just don't get it, they had had that arrogant attitude for
>years, and now that they don't own the PC market anymore, they're
>going to pay for it.


You, my friend, are a joke. Im sorry (other list members)...do you have any 
clue how much money intel makes, and how insignificant your (wrong) opinion 
is to them? and, while I dont have the actual numbers, I'll bet that intel 
and 3com have well over 50% of the linux/BSD free software market without 
releasing their docs. Why? because they make good, cheap boards that are 
available from many sources worldwide.

do you want to take that away from BSD users by "boycotting" their hardware?

why cant this thread just die?

db



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