Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:28:24 -0400 From: "jbolivar@cantv.net" <jbolivar@cantv.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re: 4.3-BETA Message-ID: <544720013119182824140@cantv.net>
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When is the next FreeBSD-stable release???? Regards, JB ----------- Mensaje Original -------------- De: Haikal Saadh [wyldephyre2@yahoo.com] Para: Mike Meyer [mwm@mired.org], Francisco Reyes [fran@reyes.somos.net] Cc: Mike Meyer [mwm@mired.org], Haikal Saadh [wyldephyre2@yahoo.com], freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] Asunto: Re: 4.3-BETA Fecha: 18/03/2001 23:23:56 Mensaje: --- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> wrote: > Francisco Reyes <fran@reyes.somos.net> types: > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Haikal Saadh <wyldephyre2@yahoo.com> types: > > > > > > > > --- Matthew Emmerton <matt@gsicomp.on.ca> > wrote: > > > > > > What is a BETA system? Is it similiar to > CURRENT? > > > > > > > > > > Please search through the mailing list > archives > > > > > before asking questions. > > > > > This has been answered many times over the > last two > > > > > weeks. > > > > > Or maybe just read the FAQ <URL: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#dmin.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE > >, > > > which makes it clear that the name changes just > identify what point of > > > the release cycle that particular snapshot of > -STABLE is at. > > I have seen several people tell Haikal to read the > FAQ, etc.... > > I really have to agree with him. I don't think > having a "Beta" label on > > what is defined in the handbook as "Stable" is a > good idea. > > > > By definition a "new user" to FreeBSD is someone > who doesn't know yet > > what are the right places to read/check. > > In that case, where did they find the information > needed to upgrade to > -STABLE? > > > I think responses like the ones he got are the > reason we consistantly over > > the years get views of sometimes been unfrienly to > new users. > > We're definitely friendlier to people who show > evidence of having done > some research themselves than to those who don't > show that evidence. > > Personally, I always provide a pointer to existing > documentation > rather than type it in myself. That saves me typing, > and the users > should learn about another valuable resource that > works faster than > the mail lists. > > Haikal wasn't asking for help, he was suggesting > inappropriate changes > to the system to try and help people who had gotten > past the newbie > stage - as demonstrated by managing to update to > -STABLE, getting > both userland and kernel - past a problem. > > > Perhaps a label of "Pre-Release" may be less > confusing. "Beta" sure gives > > the wrong impression. > > That suggestion isn't inappropriate. On the other > hand the label "-RC" > (release candidate) stil generates problems, so I'm > not sure it would > work. I suspect that *any* change in name will > generate "I tried to > get -STABLE, and got -FOO" messages. Not changing it > would make life > difficult for users who *wanted* to know they were > getting a BETA or > RC version. > > Possibly this information needs to go in the > handbook on tracking > -STABLE, rather than a FAQ. > Or a Comment in the example supfile saying "This Can Get A Beta Release If A Code Freeze Is In Effect" kinda thing? I read the handbook chapter on CVSUpping, as well as the bit in The Complete FreeBSD, but it really was an information overload, and I just ended up having a go with the given example supfile. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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