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Date:      Tue, 28 Sep 2010 02:24:26 -0500
From:      Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz>
To:        perryh@pluto.rain.com
Cc:        jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Free BSD 8.1
Message-ID:  <5711C7AE-92FD-4ECA-B0DC-2CF91A10B809@cwis.biz>
In-Reply-To: <4ca19305.qVDnt7/ifQhIrQ0c%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References:  <20100926123019.GA41450@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4C9F3BBA.2060809@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4ca03df2.lQjjNnRah4BJhw4Y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201009271016.26902.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4ca19305.qVDnt7/ifQhIrQ0c%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

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On Sep 28, 2010, at 2:02 AM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:

> Mike Clarke <jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Monday 27 September 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
>>> I've recently started on a new system, and am planning to
>>> install 8.1-RELEASE, including the corresponding ports tree;
>>> then install what ports I can from packages and also fetch the
>>> corresponding distfiles; and finally build -- from release-
>>> corresponding ports -- any that aren't available as packages or
>>> where I want non-default OPTION settings.  That approach should
>>> avoid most nasty surprises while getting things set up and
>>> working.  _After_ everything is installed and configured
>>> properly will be plenty soon enough to consider whether any
>>> ports need to be updated -- and the already-installed-and-
>>> working package collection will provide a fallback in case
>>> of trouble trying to build any updated versions.
>>=20
>> The problem is if/when you need to update a port as a result of
>> a security advisory. If your ports tree is very much out of date
>> then it's likely that updating that one port will require a number
>> of dependencies to be updated as well, sometimes all the ports
>> depending on one or more of the updated dependencies need to be
>> updated as well and the resultant bag of worms can take quite a
>> lot of sorting out.  The "little and often" approach of keeping
>> the ports tree up to date could be less traumatic.
>=20
> and, in this context, your point is?
>=20
> I'm advocating starting from a stable and self-consistent baseline,
> consisting of a release _and_ its corresponding port/package
> collection, and then considering whether any updates are needed.
> Isn't that orthogonal to the question of whether or not to follow
> ports updates, once the baseline has been established?

As I understand it: The OS itself is stable, but the ports are =
constantly in flux and may be issues.

Please correct me if I am wrong.




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