Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 14:09:12 -0300 (BRT) From: tpeixoto@widesoft.com.br To: "Julian Elischer" <julian@elischer.org> Cc: Lee Johnston <lee@wildcard.net.uk>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, mihai@duras.ro Subject: Re: Packet loss with traffic shaper and routing Message-ID: <59701.200.230.201.250.1146589752.squirrel@www.widemail.com.br> In-Reply-To: <4456D6A3.8080503@elischer.org> References: <49594.200.230.201.250.1146063341.squirrel@www.widemail.com.br> <444F8E89.2050905@wildcard.net.uk> <56286.200.230.201.250.1146067775.squirrel@www.widemail.com.br> <1146073590.1089.80.camel@sky.mediasat.ro> <59615.200.230.201.250.1146083577.squirrel@www.widemail.com.br> <445038CA.2050008@pacific.net.sg> <4456AD8E.2060703@widesoft.com.br> <4456B415.3080901@elischer.org> <4456BF4A.7050107@widesoft.com.br> <4456D19F.7030101@elischer.org> <4456D553.30202@elischer.org> <4456D6A3.8080503@elischer.org>
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Hello. I think I should give some 'real world' examples. /etc/rc.firewall: [Ss][Hh][Aa][Pp][Ee][Rr]) setup_loopback . /etc/rc.shaper ${fwcmd} add 65000 pass all from any to any ;; /etc/rc.shaper: ${fwcmd} pipe 1 config bw 512Kbit/s ${fwcmd} pipe 2 config bw 512Kbit/s ${fwcmd} add pipe 1 all from any to any MAC any 00:11:22:33:44:55 in ${fwcmd} add pipe 2 all from any to any MAC 00:11:22:33:44:55 any out ${fwcmd} pipe 3 config bw 256Kbit/s ${fwcmd} pipe 4 config bw 256Kbit/s ${fwcmd} add pipe 3 all from any to any MAC any 66:77:88:99:aa:bb in ${fwcmd} add pipe 4 all from any to any MAC 66:77:88:99:aa:bb any out ${fwcmd} pipe 5 config bw 128Kbit/s ${fwcmd} pipe 6 config bw 128Kbit/s ${fwcmd} add pipe 5 all from any to any MAC any 00:01:02:03:04:05 in ${fwcmd} add pipe 6 all from any to any MAC 00:01:02:03:04:05 any out ${fwcmd} pipe 7 config bw 512Kbit/s ${fwcmd} pipe 8 config bw 1024Kbit/s ${fwcmd} add pipe 7 all from any to any MAC any 06:07:08:09:0a:0b in ${fwcmd} add pipe 8 all from any to any MAC 06:07:08:09:0a:0b any out ${fwcmd} pipe 9 config bw 64Kbit/s ${fwcmd} pipe 10 config bw 64Kbit/s ${fwcmd} add pipe 9 all from any to any MAC any ab:cd:ef:00:11:22 in ${fwcmd} add pipe 10 all from any to any MAC ab:cd:ef:00:11:22 any out This example is for 5 clients. We have 1600. As you can see, there are 2 rules and 2 pipes per host, not 1600. If we try rc.firewall like this... setup_loopback ${fwcmd} add 65000 pass all from any to any ... we are ok. Interrupts are low. So, following your line of thought, I tried a simple test... setup_loopback ${fwcmd} skipto 65000 ip from any to any MAC any any . /etc/rc.shaper ${fwcmd} add 65000 pass all from any to any This way, the packets will never pass through shaper rules, but interrupts still get very high. Basically, we need a solution to shape each MAC address with its specifics download e upload speeds. Given the tests, I don't see how skipto can help, but if you believe that tablearg (which I am not familiar with) might help, we can try it with 7.x. Thanks. > oops, forgot to fix my cut-n- pastes.. corrected triage below.. > > > Julian Elischer wrote: > >> Julian Elischer wrote: >> >>> tpeixoto@widesoft.com.br wrote: >>> >>>>> That would do it.. >>>>> >>>>> In all versions of FreeBSD >>>>> you can use the skipto rule to make sure that only a few rules are >>>>> run for any >>>>> address. Use it to to a binary search for the right pipe.' >>>>> carefully using 'skipto' and 'table' can make it efficient to do >>>>> very complex >>>>> filters like that. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I didn't realized how to use that as we have to shape >>>> each user individually, i.e., each MAC address on the LAN has its >>>> own download and upload speeds. >>>> >>>> Could you clarify how to improve the situation with the tools you >>>> mentioned? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Assuming you can not use "tablearg" yet (it will make this REALLY EASY) >>> then if you have 30 IPs you want to shape from 1.1.1.1 to 1.1.1.30 >> >> >> >> >> then, consider the following example using IP addresses. >> >>> >>> >>> >> ipfw add 1000 skipto 1110 ip from any to 1.1.1.16/28 >> ipfw add 1010 skipto 1032 ip from any to 1.1.1.8/29 >> ipfw add 1012 skipto 1021 ip from any to 1.1.1.4./30 > >> ipfw add 1013 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.0 > >> ipfw add 1014 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.1 >> ipfw add 1015 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.2 >> ipfw add 1016 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.3 >> >> >> ipfw add 1021 anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.4 >> ipfw add 1022 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.5 >> ipfw add 1023 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.6 >> ipfw add 1024 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.7 >> >> >> ipfw add 1032 skipto 1051 ip from any to 1.1.1.12./30 >> >> ipfw add 1040 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.8 >> ipfw add 1041 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.9 >> ipfw add 1042 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.10 >> ipfw add 1043 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.11 >> >> >> ipfw add 1051 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.12 >> ipfw add 1052 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.13 >> ipfw add 1053 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.14 >> ipfw add 1054 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.15 >> >> >> ipfw add 1110 skipto 1132 ip from any to 1.1.1.24/29 >> ipfw add 1112 skipto 1121 ip from any to 1.1.1.20./30 >> ipfw add 1113 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.16 >> ipfw add 1114 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.17 >> ipfw add 1115 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.18 > >> ipfw add 1116 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.19 > >> >> >> ipfw add 1121 anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.20 >> ipfw add 1122 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.21 >> ipfw add 1123 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.22 >> ipfw add 1124 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.23 >> >> >> ipfw add 1132 skipto 1151 ip from any to 1.1.1.28./30 >> >> ipfw add 1140 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.24 >> ipfw add 1141 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.25 >> ipfw add 1142 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.26 >> ipfw add 1143 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.27 >> >> >> ipfw add 1151 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.28 >> ipfw add 1152 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.29 >> ipfw add 1153 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.30 >> ipfw add 1154 [anything] ip from any to 1.1.1.31 >> >> >> >> >> >> now this example shows a binary search in IP space, written (including >> bugs) by hand >> but if you are willing to write a suitable perl script, you can >> generate a binary search in MAC address space >> just as easily. just sort them into order and search.. >> >> I'm not going to try it by had, but for 1600 hosts you should only >> need to go through >> 15 rules per host on average, instead of 1600 rules per host. >> that should cut down your ipfw cpu usage by 1/100 >> >> >> >>> >>> freebsd.org" >> >
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