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Date:      Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:33:44 +0700
From:      Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OpenVPN vs IPSec
Message-ID:  <5A119648.4080707@grosbein.net>
In-Reply-To: <ae7baceb-0aa9-3c76-d3d0-8cad09b6dc42@denninger.net>
References:  <20171118165842.GA73810@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <b96b449e-3dc1-6e75-e803-e6d6abefe88e@spam-fetish.org> <20171119120832.GA82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <d92dff62-3baf-a22d-bfac-5a668b276259@spam-fetish.org> <5A11882D.1050700@quip.cz> <ae7baceb-0aa9-3c76-d3d0-8cad09b6dc42@denninger.net>

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19.11.2017 21:15, Karl Denninger wrote:

> The reason is Windows.  Microslug hasn't updated their client since at
> least Windows 7 release (we're talking about over a decade now) and
> their IKEv2 implementation doesn't support IKE fragmentation.  In
> today's world this usually means IPSEC/IKEv2 won't connect at all
> because someone in the middle drops UDP fragments on purpose.
> 
> I'd like to ram that up someone's chute out at Microslug, never mind
> that their default proposals are intentionally insecure (gee, I wonder
> if someone in the government "asked nicely" for that?)  That's fixable
> with a bit of registry editing, but the lack of IKEv2 frag support is a
> killer and has basically forced me to support OpenVPN when there are
> windows clients around and you have no control (at all) over the
> networks in the middle between the client and server.

I was able to successfully connect Windows 8.1 client to FreeBSD 11.1 server
in the L2TP/IPSEC mode using ipsec-tools (racoon) plus mpd5.

You can use something like mtu=576 for L2TP ngX interface to avoid UDP fragmentation.
Have you tried that?





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