Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:41:17 +1100 From: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> To: Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>, Igor Mozolevsky <mozolevsky@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs Message-ID: <5A2DB80D.3020309@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <19bd6d57-4fa6-24d4-6262-37e1487d7ed6@rawbw.com> References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <20171205231845.5028d01d@gumby.homeunix.com> <CADWvR2gVn8H5h6LYB5ddwUHYwDtiLCuYndsXhJywi7Q9vNsYvw@mail.gmail.com> <20171210173222.GF5901@funkthat.com> <CADWvR2iGQOtcU=FnU-fNsso2eLCCQn=swnOLoqws%2B33V8VzX1Q@mail.gmail.com> <5c810101-9092-7665-d623-275c15d4612b@rawbw.com> <CADWvR2j_LLEPKnSynRRmP4LG3mypdkNitwg%2B7vSh=iuJ=JU09Q@mail.gmail.com> <fd888f6b-bf16-f029-06d3-9a9b754dc676@rawbw.com> <CADWvR2jnxVwXmTA9XpZhGYnCAhFVifqqx2MvYeSeHmYEybaNnA@mail.gmail.com> <19bd6d57-4fa6-24d4-6262-37e1487d7ed6@rawbw.com>
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Yuri wrote: > On 12/10/17 10:15, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: >> They are not "hypothetical characters," they are invented characters >> that >> are used in a threat model. But that's reframing the problem- a >> hypothetical threat model is very different to a real threat model. > > > This is a very real threat model. There are a lot of malicious Tor > exit node operators, and a lot of FreeBSD users update their system > over subversion. The only thing that the Tor node operator needs to do > is to detect relevant requests and serve malware. > > How is this not real? Sounds to me the proper solution is stop using Tor. If you can't trust the network (wire) no matter what you do you can't guarantee safety. Seriously if there are "a lot of malicious Tor exit node operators" the simple answer is stop using Tor. Michelle
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