Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:43:04 +0100 From: Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Adriaan de Groot <adridg@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vim - GTK2 or GTK3? Message-ID: <64288441-f2f7-60fb-eb71-bcc6f2b20185@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <f554ec1c-520a-eed9-4be9-8e256ba5ccd2@quip.cz> References: <mailman.95.1546516802.80376.freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> <4833920.ppSauYnzuk@beastie.bionicmutton.org> <f554ec1c-520a-eed9-4be9-8e256ba5ccd2@quip.cz>
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On 1/3/19 6:08 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Adriaan de Groot wrote on 2019/01/03 14:28: >> Niclas wrote: >> >> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:00:02 CET=20 >> freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org >> wrote: >>>> Firefox and Chromium both depend on GTK3, so it's highly likely that= a >>>> typical desktop user has GTK3 installed. >>> >>> +1, GTK3 is probably the best choice. >>> >>> As a side note, it looks like libreoffice defaults to GTK2 as well, >>> perhaps it should be switched to GTK3 also? >> >> As a not-really-GTK-using person, I still have both GTK2 and GTK3=20 >> installed on >> my system running KDE Plasma. Not for vim though: >> >> Installed packages to be REMOVED: >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 gtk2-2.24.32 >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 fontforge-20170731 >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mftrace-1.2.18_1 >> >> Installed packages to be REMOVED: >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 gtk3-3.22.30_4 >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 gpsd-3.17 >> >> I'm a fan of pushing for toolkit migration, so reducing the number of=20 >> things >> that pull in GTK2 is a good thing. >> >> >> So if we're expressing hopes that ports might be made GTK2-free (by=20 >> porting to >> GTK3 for instance) then I'd hope that fontforge gets that treatment,=20 >> too. From >> looking at the source repo, I don't think the GTK2 option actually=20 >> works (and >> the comments suggest it's not all that good anyway). In the=20 >> configure.ac it >> looks like there are spelling-inconsistencies between >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0fontforge_can_use_gtk=3Dyes >> and, e.g,, >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0FONTFORGE_ARG_ENABLE_GDK >> >> (mtrace depends on fontforge, so fixing fontforge would clean GTK2 off= my >> system) >=20 > It is not so simple. What works for you doesn't work for somebody else.= =20 > I am running KDE4 with QT4 but some applications use GTK2 as the only=20 > option or I set them to use GTK2 because GTK2 has better theme=20 > integration to KDE4 / QT style than GTK3 (in my personal case). > And, for example, Total Commander has two choices - QT or GTK2. I tried= =20 > it to build with QT but it failed so I switched to GTK2 and it builds f= ine. > So in my current situation I am glad we have GTK2 and GTK3 and all my=20 > applications are working (better with GTK2 than GTK3). And having both=20 > GTK versions installed is not a big problem. Their size is relatively=20 > small compared to apps like browsers, libreoffice etc. >=20 No one is suggesting removing GTK2. However, having most ports, where=20 there is a choice, defaulting to GTK3 rather than GTK2 might be sensible. Regards --=20 Niclas Zeising
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