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Date:      Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:26:10 -0400 
From:      Esry Don-FDE005 <Don_Esry-FDE005@email.mot.com>
To:        "'Daniel C. Sobral'" <dcs@newsguy.com>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Ollivier Robert <roberto@keltia.freenix.fr>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Separate boot partition?
Message-ID:  <681FCF3A6828D211A37F00A0C9992A2101880FFE@fl19exch01.paging.mot.com>

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I believe that IBM, HP, and Sun all buy their LVM from Veritous. Hopefully I
am close enough in spelling that you can figure it out. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel C. Sobral [mailto:dcs@newsguy.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:49 AM
To: Greg Lehey
Cc: Ollivier Robert; FreeBSD Hackers
Subject: Re: Separate boot partition?


Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> > Speaking of HP, their LVM system is cool. Now, that would be a nice
> > addition to vinum (please don't look at me, I'm not a FS expert).
> 
> Well, you *could* tell me which parts are cool and why.  Then you'd
> have at least a hope of getting it.

It's like AIX LVM... I sent you a message describing AIX LVM once.
There are three features really worth in them. First, the Logical
Volume is a set of Physical Volumes (VINUM does that). Second, you
allocate partitions in the logical volumes through bitmaps of LPs
(sectors/clusters/blocks/whatever you want to call it) instead of
ranges. Third, you can increase logical volumes or partitions at any
time.

Then, there is the volume group stuff, which is a minor point.

The problem is that the underlying filesystem would need to support
dynamic size increase. BTW, I recall that you need to unmount the fs
in HP-UX, while AIX supports increasing the logical volume (and
underlying filesystem) without unmounting it. Anyway, if you can't
increase the size of a filesystem, even having to unmount it, the
other benefits of a LVM over Vinum are greatly diminished.

I have worked with both, and AIX one is much superior.

--
Daniel C. Sobral			(8-DCS)
dcs@newsguy.com
dcs@freebsd.org

	"nothing better than the ability to perform cunning linguistics"



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