Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 14:54:33 -0400 From: "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org> To: "FreeBSD Current" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Plans_for_git_(was:_Please_check_the_current_beta_git_conv?= =?UTF-8?Q?ersions)?= Message-ID: <68585ca4-5ca4-40d3-b2f4-67ff3b35b6ae@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <e0b8e48e2942c019e05bdc21a6502379235f9073.camel@freebsd.org> References: <CAPyFy2CTTecRJDnXNvF%2BM2%2BaLWJpA%2BEdG43ZeU3qwsCruecoFA@mail.gmail.com> <20200902045939.GA15897@eureka.lemis.com> <20200902060117.GG53210@home.opsec.eu> <20200902063136.GA47543@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAPyFy2ANWEiA2ndE6qr_kY=sPuY%2BeaAZg=apWo0OZPVC7pkwkg@mail.gmail.com> <20200902164706.GA49777@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CANCZdfp8b78yNB8S2j1xHUKEz5iGNvdBGnw774_sXXtN9ucrSw@mail.gmail.com> <5c89b4d27281f5dfffc3252a90013b0ac6c763d7.camel@freebsd.org> <5c832482-b2bc-47e4-8762-8f5a886d5f11@www.fastmail.com> <e0b8e48e2942c019e05bdc21a6502379235f9073.camel@freebsd.org>
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 14:45 -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > > Seriously, Warner? > > > > Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly. > > > > Don't be confused. I also thought the message he was replying to was out of line. > > > > > I applaud Steve's message as being the first one in this thread that > > > has any real value at all. Unlike everyone else, he has clearly seen > > > what the basic problem is (zero communications about this impending > > > cutover to the people who need to work with it every day), and he > > > summarized it in a completely practical way. > > > > We disagree. The message could have been worded without being negative. > > > > > This assumption that everyone knows how to use git is mind-boggling. I > > > think I installed it once, a few years ago. Then I uninstalled it > > > because of how abysmally hard it was to try to learn even a few > > > commands to do anything with it. > > > > No, it's assumed you will learn. I did. We all can. > > > > Please, we cooperate on this project. We don't attack, and yes, these were attacks. > > > > > I guess Steve & I are a couple dinosaurs and the whole rest of the > > > freebsd user and committer community is laughing at our ignorance and > > > thinking "we don't need their contributions anyway, so let's just mock > > > them and move on." > > > > I don't think so. I'm guessing I'm older and more set in my ways. > > > > There are much better ways to communicate that in recent messages. > > > > How typical: trim away ALL context of what's being discussed, then > claim that the material was offensive in some way after destroying the > contextual evidence that makes a lie of your claim. I apologize for the excessive trimming. I regret posting, but still persist in my call for improved methods. Umm, as for the rest... I don't know how to reply to that. -- Dan Langille dan@langille.org
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