Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 16:15:36 -0700 From: Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> To: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? Message-ID: <6881393C-BCE0-4F3E-B5AA-FC2FF995628D@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: <5A246D28.2020007@sorbs.net> References: <CAN6yY1ujLFdKpuG4Rxz%2Bfww9gAxTBaY14iCB7RFTkh-oVB1%2B9A@mail.gmail.com> <BN6PR2001MB1730A16025654AB7C452111B80390@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <CAOc73CD9VnLKv8-jBNW1Uj05LnEFh6kkZFKNAxp-EG9YO_AUxA@mail.gmail.com> <1512211220.79413.1.camel@yandex.com> <BN6PR2001MB17309152A0FC3776781AB53B803E0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <20171202184356.GA980@lonesome.com> <b0e44e55-5fc9-af2a-22c8-bfa0d30c866f@columbus.rr.com> <20800E88-36EC-49C4-A281-EA6BAB212DBF@adamw.org> <5A246D28.2020007@sorbs.net>
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> On 3 Dec, 2017, at 14:31, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> = wrote: >=20 > Adam Weinberger wrote: >>=20 >> You seem very angry about things breaking in HEAD, Baho. Things break = in HEAD sometimes. This is why we recommend that end-users who can't = have breakages, or users who depend on undeveloped tools, stay on the = quarterly branch. Portmaster works perfectly on quarterly. Always has. >>=20 >=20 > Quarterly is just a frozen HEAD with no/minute chances of security = patches or other changes... why would you want to be there? I couldn't = even get someone to patch a security issue before the pkg_*->pkgng = change.. was patched 4 days later despite having the patch in the bug = before... and despite asking for the patch to be put in the quarterly = they didn't either. One continues to watch the exodus. The MFH process was very complicated at first, and many committers = didn't participate in it. Now it's largely automated and expected of all = ports committers. The quarterly branches these days receive essentially = all security fixes and most build fixes. As with all things FreeBSD, = it's a best-effort process. Quarterly is mostly static, and receives no unnecessary updates. It also = receives no known breakages. That's the tradeoff between it and head. We do the best we can, and if things get missed it's because we need = more community involvement. If you can't handle the flux of HEAD, stay = on quarterly. If you need the cutting-edge, use HEAD. As you noted, we = are strained for resources to keep quarterly going; we simply don't have = the ability to provide another in-between level. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org
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