Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:16:33 -0400 From: Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot banner project Message-ID: <6dc0162f9029defe6980a9ae28bb5175@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <20050504.185153.78707420.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <ff3ef3b2621f16316effcf296f044d93@mac.com> <20050504.163618.112621888.imp@bsdimp.com> <ddbd692bcfcae94e8417a228a95fbcfc@mac.com> <20050504.185153.78707420.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On May 4, 2005, at 8:51 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : The fact that the /etc/rc scripts, cron, and similar tools involving > : root's environment are all run using /bin/sh is one of the primary > : reasons why root shell ought to be /bin/sh. There are newgroup FAQs > : for various platforms which recommend against changing root's shell > : from being a /bin/sh. > > That doesn't follow. Do FreeBSD users ever have problems setting up cron jobs because their interactive environment and cron's are not the same? > All my shell scripts run /bin/sh, yet my default shell is /bin/tcsh. Sure; lots of people prefer another shell for interactive use. It's not hard to do "exec tcsh", or put that in ~root/.profile, hopefully wrapped in a test for whether the shell is interactive. I have a .cshrc floating around which has this near the end: # skip remaining setup if not an interactive shell if ($?USER == 0 || $?prompt == 0) exit ...and the end of a .login which looks like: # Note: this section is for interactive shells. case $- in *i*) eval `tset -s` 2> /dev/null if [ ! -f .hushlogin ]; then # IMPORTANT: place commands that might produce output here. quota -q mesg y msgs -fp 2> /dev/null # allow the user to break the Message-Of-The-Day display. #trap "trap '' 2" 2 #/bin/cat -s /etc/motd #trap "" 2 fi esac trap 2 3 Put an "exec tcsh" in there instead of the MOTD code (which clearly isn't needed on FreeBSD).... > But like I've said twice now: There's lots of bigger problems in the > tree, and a change like this could break things. There's enough > breakage in the tree now. Data point: I've been running /bin/sh as root's shell on a bunch of machines with zero issues since 4.0. -- -Chuck
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