Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:17:29 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl <gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch> To: Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: "Cluster" administration software... Message-ID: <70187884814.20011230181729@buz.ch> In-Reply-To: <3C2F4A01.4030207@potentialtech.com> References: <94174320199.20011230143124@buz.ch> <3C2F3EAD.6090809@potentialtech.com> <50184864380.20011230172708@buz.ch> <3C2F4A01.4030207@potentialtech.com>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Bill, 30 Dec 2001, 18:08:17, you wrote: >> Last time I looked into NIS it was for stuff like keeping >> /etc/passwd etc in sync, but not updating packages on hosts. > No, I was suggesting it for the purpose of "globals configuration" > which I had assumed would include passwd, groups, hosts. It > appears I > misunderstood. Well, maybe I wasn't concise enough. By global configuration I meant stuff like rc.conf, resolv.conf etc pp, i.e. stuff that needs to be changed to reflect local configuration but can be correct site wide. > Hmmm ... well, portupgrade is the best tool I know of currently, > there's an interesting article by Michael Lucas that may give you > some ideas on how to make it work better: > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html > but I don't know of anything better. Except for the docproj stuff which I don't need, I knew everything pointed out there. >> run Debian at home and they told me that apt-get never did any bad >> to their system... > Sounds "too good to be true" but if it really works that well, it > might be worth porting (if possible The short glance I had at apt reminded me heavily of the FreeBSD ports and AFAIK, .deb was modeled after them with some improvements. > I don't understand that from a server perspective. I mean, what > happens if something automatically upgrades something that no > longer works? I always want to be involved when upgrades are in the > works. Well, I don't plan to run portupgrade --all from crontab, but something like portupgrade --everything-on=http://myrepository/packages for sure would be nice, i.e. specifying a custom repository of packages which are known to be working as you've built them yourself on one of your test boxes and now you just need to distribute them over your farm... >> I've been thinking about implementing some SOAP based small >> server, that takes the package and calls portupgrade on it... > That would probably be a useful project, something like an enhanced > portupgrade program that worked across the network via ssh or > something. I don't know of anything that does it right now. Well, rdist and not so bad distribution both try to solve the same task but both don't seem to know anything about FreeBSD ports and thus aren't of much value here... >> Cluster User administration for sure looks cool but I don't really >> need to keep passwd in sync (actually, this would probably be >> counter productive from a security point of view with our system). > Doesn't sound like NIS will work for you then. ACK. Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBPC8+HMZa2WpymlDxAQFyZQgAn+C9Zsq7zJYzzPSWlUyHt1R7MdmBXPon 7ezlHhpuDNk3iLwelB+82wUDqDAFcOIhwP3F3cVB1yfNGDpjp82vqIEVudmr12D/ LVrC/yRBIkxCu373O2RefKePaE5To3ErBRL6MmvRAfFkIvTcfGEQFESR/gJZTB8t 8G1qOSWUlhqrl2Mi8FPrONoLVOZ0YKGuTyXPldYP3pNJ6kRDSdbztGAXalmQAoGP fg5RbjNoKiQObLum40VExaTZKLSGd6NT1rI/czJN1nndsCpLK8xexqNvSvw/DKAb y7du5BOnKKtz5jOOg/bTVWF/9RojgVBjGjkarFnyw8sYGcigXgxOMA== =wiNb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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