Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:08:31 -0700 From: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> To: "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> Cc: dteske@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.2 Boot Problem Message-ID: <71411322-DDBA-4466-9367-35D54375BF5E@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <022f3f24db70caf9a4091e9314d921b1.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> References: <175D3755-BB9B-4EAD-BDAD-06E9670E06AB@lafn.org> <186472F9-A97B-4863-81BC-67BE788D5E9A@lafn.org> <a865b8f2ccb9ad4918544bad3d49554d.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <791C8200-023A-4ACB-9B6F-F5A8B0E170F4@lafn.org> <5bfb4fb619954c3dfbd3499aafa98917.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <4F983E6A-0A7D-403C-AFAA-9CCCCB05716F@lafn.org> <feeca307c8da9ca3b385cf47d75904a7.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <0f3f01cf5439$13cf8570$3b6e9050$@FreeBSD.org> <318a4d8a0a7e5076f212c16675467140.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <0f4101cf543b$0d15f460$2741dd20$@FreeBSD.org> <022f3f24db70caf9a4091e9314d921b1.authenticated@ultimatedns.net>
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On 9 April 2014, at 14:40, "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Chris H [mailto:bsd-lists@bsdforge.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:31 PM >>> To: dteske@FreeBSD.org >>> Cc: 'Doug Hardie'; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org >>> Subject: RE: 9.2 Boot Problem >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Chris H [mailto:bsd-lists@bsdforge.com] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:03 PM >>>>> To: Doug Hardie >>>>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List >>>>> Subject: Re: 9.2 Boot Problem >>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 9 April 2014, at 13:49, "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> = wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 9 April 2014, at 11:29, "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> = wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On 4 April 2014, at 21:08, Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> = wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> I put this out on Questions, but got no responses. Hopefully >>>>>>>>>>> someone here has some ideas. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD 9.2. All of my systems are hanging during boot = right >>>>>>>>>>> after the screen that has the picture. Its as if someone = hit >>>>>>>>>>> a space on the keyboard. However, these systems have no >>> keyboard. >>>>>>>>>>> If I plug one in, or use the serial console, and enter a >>>>>>>>>>> return, the boot continues properly. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> The boot menu is displayed along with Beastie. However, the >>>>>>>>>>> line that says Autoboot in n seconds=85 never appears. It = just >>>>>>>>>>> stops there. These are all new installs from CD systems. >>>>>>>>>>> I just used freebsd-update to take a toy server from 9.1 to >>>>>>>>>>> 9.2 and it doesn't exhibit this behavior. It boots = properly. >>>>>>>>>>> I have updated one of the production servers with the latest >>>>>>>>>>> 9.2 changes and it still has the issue. I first thought = that >>>>>>>>>>> some config file did not get updated properly on the CD. I >>>>>>>>>>> have dug around through the 4th files and don't see anything >>>>>>>>>>> obvious that would cause this. I have now verified that all >>>>>>>>>>> the 4th files in boot are identical (except for the version >>>>>>>>>>> number. They are slightly different). I don't believe this >>>>>>>>>>> is a BIOS setting issue as FreeBSD 7.2 didn't exhibit this >>>>>>>>>>> behavior. All >>>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>>> systems are on totally different motherboards. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> I tried setting loader_logo=3D"none" in /boot/config.rc and = that >>>>>>>>>>> eliminated the menu and Beastie. I think the system = completed >>>>> booting, but the serial console was then dead. >>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>> did not respond or output anything. I had to remove that = and >>>>>>>>>>> reboot to get the console back again. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> I need to get this fixed as these are production servers = that >>>>>>>>>>> are essentially unmanned so its difficult to get them back = up >>> again. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> No response here either. Surely someone must know the = loader. >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>> have been digging >>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>> the code, and can't find any differences between the systems >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>> work and those that >>>>>>>>>> don't. >>>>>>>>>> Is there any way to debug this? Is there a way to find out >>>>>>>>>> where the >>>>> loader is sitting >>>>>>>>>> waiting on input from the terminal. That might give a clue = as >>>>>>>>>> to why it >>>>> didn't >>>>>>>>>> autoboot. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> OK. This is the first I've seen of your post. I'm not going to >>>>>>>>> profess being an expert. But I might suggest adding the >>>>>>>>> following to >>>>>>>>> loader.conf(5) >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> verbose_loading=3D"YES" >>>>>>>>> boot_verbose=3D"YES" >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> This raises the "noise level". Maybe that will help to provide >>>>>>>>> you with a bit more information, as to what, or if, your >>>>>>>>> booting. DO have a look through /boot/defaults/loader.conf for >>>>>>>>> more hints, as to what, and >>>>> how >>>>>>>>> you can control the boot process. As well as = /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >>>>>>>>> In fact, you can pre-decide what, and how, to boot. Even = passing >>>>>>>>> by the boot menu entirely. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. I did that and here is what I get: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Rebooting... >>>>>>>> cpu_reset: Stopping other CPUs >>>>>>>> /boot.config: -Dh >>>>>>>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port BIOS drive A: is >>>>>>>> disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS 640kB/2087360kB available >>>>>>>> memory >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 (doug@zool.lafn.org, >>>>>>>> Tue Apr 8 20:30:20 PDT 2014) Loading = /boot/defaults/loader.conf >>>>>>>> Warning: unable to open file /boot/loader.conf.local >>>>>>>> /boot/kernel/kernel text=3D0xdb3171 data=3D0xf3c04+0xbb770 >>>>> syms=3D[0x4+0xeda80+0x4+0x1b8ebf] >>>>>>>> zpool_cache...failed! >>>>>>>> \ >>>>>>>> H[Esc]ape to loader prompt_ _____ _____ >>>>>>>> | ____| | _ \ / ____| __ \ >>>>>>>> | |___ _ __ ___ ___ | |_) | (___ | | | | >>>>>>>> | ___| '__/ _ \/ _ \| _ < \___ \| | | | >>>>>>>> | | | | | __/ __/| |_) |____) | |__| | >>>>>>>> | | | | | | || | | | >>>>>>>> |_| |_| \___|\___||____/|_____/|_____/ ``` = ` >>>>>>>> s` = `.....---.......--.``` -/ >>>>>>>> + Welcome to FreeBSD + +o .--` = /y:` +. >>>>>>>> | | yo`:. = :o `+- >>>>>>>> | 1. Boot Multi User [Enter] | y/ 3;46H / >>>>>>>> | 2.-- / | >>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>> | 4. Reboot | `: = :` >>>>>>>> | | `: = :` >>>>>>>> | Options: / = / >>>>>>>> | 5. Configure Boot [O]ptions... .- = -. >>>>>>>> | -- = -. >>>>>>>> | `:` = `:` >>>>>>>> | .-- = `--. >>>>>>>> | = .---.....----. >>>>>>>> +-----------------------------------------+ >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> FreeBSD `Nakatomi >>>>>>>> Socrates' 9.2 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Now it waits for a return. I have tried changing the logo, >>>>>>>> setting the >>>>> autoboot timeout >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> a couple others. The only thing that did anything different = was >>>>>>>> setting >>>>> the logo to an >>>>>>>> invalid value. Basically the console was dead after that, but >>>>>>>> the system >>>>> did boot. I >>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>> see the Auto Boot in n seconds message. Its also interesting >>>>>>>> that the list >>>>> of options >>>>>>>> above >>>>>>>> appears incomplete. On the working system, items 1 through 5 = are >>>>>>>> all >>>>> present. I have >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>> checked all the cksum's for all the files in /boot and they are = all the >>> same. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hmmm. Looks like you're going to make me do all your research, = for >>> you. >>>>> ;) >>>>>>> You /did/ read the contents of /boot/defaults/loader.conf. Yes? >>>>>>> I'm >>>>> guessing >>>>>>> that you've also already read loader.4th(8), and the other = related info. >>>>>>> Now this is pure supposition; as it appears that you're looking >>>>>>> for a serial console. I'd /speculate/ that you want to turn all >>>>>>> that NASTY ANSI stuff >>>>> OFF >>>>>>> That's why your not seeing the complete menu -- hear that Devin! >>>>>>> I'm going to post just this much for now, just to get you = started. >>>>>>> I know what else you need/are looking for. But need to find the >>>>>>> /correct/ syntax >>>>> -- >>>>>>> paraphrasing, just won't get it. :)\ >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Setting loader_color=3D"NO" (from man page) does give back the = full >>> menu. >>>>> Still waits for >>>>>> return after the version name. I haven't found in the forth = where >>>>>> it is >>>>> reading the >>>>>> keyboard. Yes, I have to use a serial console. These machines = are >>>>>> about >>>>> 100 miles away. >>>>>> Something is stopping the autoboot from even starting. >>>>>=20 >>>>> See my reply to this. I think I've given you the hints you need -- >>>>> fingers crossed. :) >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> He's using console=3Dcomconsole (serial boot). >>>> When that is the case, loader_color is automatically set to NO. >>>> There's no reason to set both loader_color=3DNO and console=3D = comconsole. >>>> The code that does this is here: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>> = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dhttp://svnweb.freebsd.org/b >>>>=20 >>> = ase/release/9.2.0/sys/boot/forth/color.4th?revision%3D255898%26view%3D >>>>=20 >>> markup&k=3D%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj >>> 2Ns9%2FssH >>>>=20 >>> Jjg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DSb5WGVC5%2BWtjRcyJpnVxPn6RX4sdiUdLbrbhmjen5T >>> k%3D%0A&s=3D7 >>>> 093c40428c7d3ff090a2b2ecf2383b6f8eb570b313f498f1e5fdd1af84c3103 >>>> Line 48 within the loader_color? function: >>>> boot_serial? if FALSE else TRUE then >>>>=20 >>>> As for answering the quandary of where the keyboard is polled = during >>>> the timeout countdown, that's the getkey function in here: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>> = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dhttp://svnweb.freebsd.org/b >>>>=20 >>> ase/release/9.2.0/sys/boot/forth/menu.4th?revision%3D255898%26view%3 >>> Dm >>>>=20 >>> arkup&k=3D%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj2 >>> Ns9%2FssHJ >>>>=20 >>> jg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DSb5WGVC5%2BWtjRcyJpnVxPn6RX4sdiUdLbrbhmjen5Tk >>> %3D%0A&s=3D54 >>>> b92411337a79a77d0308c0f50c147845f246a911bd6b888aa3f6a08c3299b6 >>>=20 >>> Hi Devin. I was hoping you'd join the conversation. :) I = /personally/ didn't >>> suggest that he issue both color=3DNO /and/ boot_serial. >>> In fact, I only suggested using loader_logo=3D"beastiebw" as that's = how I >>> managed to /finally/ get a usable boot menu, when I first attempted = to >>> use/install 9.2. I'd have written a pr(1). But as the /whole/ = experience was >>> new -- hardware /and/ 9.2. I just wrote it off. But now I suspect = that there >>> may be more to it. >>>=20 >>> Thanks for chiming in. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Just for clarification... do I need to debug a broken feature? >> Do we know what combination causes boot to hang? >=20 > I think we're still "debugging" it. I see no indication he's got a > /normally/ functioning boot, yet. The only thing not functioning is autoboot. It stops and no visible = autoboot message is displayed. Entering a return resumes the boot and = all is fine after that. The autoboot message may be displayed and then = immediately removed. It appeared that might be the case once, but = haven't been able to capture that as the system clears the line = immediately. Most of the time the flash is not visible. Once it was, = but was gone before I could read it. Note, I have 4 systems exhibiting this behavior and one that is not. = The 4 with the problem were upgraded from 9.1 and probably through = several RCs and then to 9.2. The working one was a new install. I have not been able to find any differences in /boot between the = working and non-working systems.
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