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Date:      Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:10:49 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility
Message-ID:  <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfpmyk23w0RmYiVOHx3Qzga_H9G=uXypPgGkktwQqX_%2B%2Bg@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> <CANCZdfpmyk23w0RmYiVOHx3Qzga_H9G=uXypPgGkktwQqX_%2B%2Bg@mail.gmail.com>

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On December 12, 2019 6:39:05 AM PST, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp=2Ecom> wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 6:08 AM Lars Engels <lme@freebsd=2Eorg> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:19:01PM +0100, Julian H=2E Stacey wrote:
>> > Devin Teske wrote:
>> > > I???d like to announce a new utility/library for FreeBSD base
>> available for review=2E
>> > >
>> > > https://reviews=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/D16132
><https://reviews=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/D16132
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Preview HTML-formatted manuals:
>> > > https://fraubsd=2Eorg/doc/cmb=2E1=2Ehtml
><https://fraubsd=2Eorg/doc/cmb=2E1=2Ehtml
>> >
>> > > https://fraubsd=2Eorg/doc/cmb=2E3=2Ehtml
><https://fraubsd=2Eorg/doc/cmb=2E3=2Ehtml
>> >
>> >
>> > =2E=2E=2E etc=2E
>> >
>> > It cost pain & disputes forcing other code from src/ to ports/ ,
>> > despite which src/ has bloated=2E  No more bloat please=2E
>>
>> It's no bloat:
>>
>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    23K Dec 12 14:04 /usr/bin/cmp
>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    29K Dec 12 14:04
>> /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cmp=2Edebug
>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   1=2E9K Dec 12 14:04
>/usr/share/man/man1/cmp=2E1=2Egz
>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   151B Dec 12 14:04
>> /usr/tests/usr=2Ebin/cmp/Kyuafile
>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   2=2E3K Dec 12 14:04
>> /usr/tests/usr=2Ebin/cmp/cmp_test
>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   2=2E6K Dec 12 14:04
>> /usr/tests/usr=2Ebin/cmp/cmp_test2
>>
>>
>> Given that on embedded systems debug, kyua and man pages are usually
>not
>> installed, cmp(1) adds just 23 kB to the image=2E
>>
>
>Cmb and cmp are different things=2E Cmb is not yet in the system=2E
>
>But I'm with Julian on this one: this hasn't been socialized, seems
>auxiliary to our needs and could better be served as a port=2E There
>might be
>good arguments to include it, but I've not yet seen them clearly
>articulated yet=2E
>
>Warner
>
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Agreed=2E  A good example is mergemaster(8) which started out in ports and=
 was subsequently moved to base=2E

Also, to run our testsuite in /usr/tests one must install devel/kyua from =
ports=2E

I see nothing wrong with putting it in ports for now=2E It should be there=
 to start with=2E



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