Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:51:24 +0200 From: Andrea Brancatelli <abrancatelli@schema31.it> To: Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology> Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64? Message-ID: <734deaff2cf6c5e9ac34b00f14919451@schema31.it> In-Reply-To: <8FB6136B-59BB-4A8F-A33C-DCEE93B3834F@unrelenting.technology> References: <202103310043.12V0hFqg023324@office.dignus.com> <6136F5CE-0E73-4A36-B3B0-CA17C8BEE9AA@unrelenting.technology> <03D4DC97-1F65-4CF3-A85B-6744A401931D@googlemail.com> <48041E50-D673-4855-A8C0-9B45D6BEA739@unrelenting.technology> <7E683433-883B-4105-9103-AC9C437008FB@googlemail.com> <8FB6136B-59BB-4A8F-A33C-DCEE93B3834F@unrelenting.technology>
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On 2021-04-01 12:30, Greg V wrote: > For now, the only option for relatively affordable big (16-great-cores) hardware at home is AMD. Practically speaking, supposing I'd like the equivalent of an entry-level server that is not a spacerocket (80 cores...) but not a raspberry with the drives tapes to the raw board, is there anything around? --- Andrea Brancatelli Schema31 S.p.a. 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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 07:02:47 -0700 References: <202103310043.12V0hFqg023324@office.dignus.com> <6136F5CE-0E73-4A36-B3B0-CA17C8BEE9AA@unrelenting.technology> <03D4DC97-1F65-4CF3-A85B-6744A401931D@googlemail.com> <48041E50-D673-4855-A8C0-9B45D6BEA739@unrelenting.technology> <7E683433-883B-4105-9103-AC9C437008FB@googlemail.com> <8FB6136B-59BB-4A8F-A33C-DCEE93B3834F@unrelenting.technology> <734deaff2cf6c5e9ac34b00f14919451@schema31.it> To: Andrea Brancatelli <abrancatelli@schema31.it>, Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <734deaff2cf6c5e9ac34b00f14919451@schema31.it> Message-Id: <5E172789-BD6F-4BA0-8563-C4ACF12847DC@brickporch.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.20.0.2.21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FB4dW4C9qz3rFb X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=brickporch.com header.s=mail header.b=Sg1OfOkX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=brickporch.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marcel@brickporch.com designates 45.79.84.102 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=marcel@brickporch.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[brickporch.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[brickporch.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[45.79.84.102:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:63949, ipnet:45.79.64.0/19, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[brickporch.com:s=mail]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[marcel]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[45.79.84.102:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors <freebsd-arm.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-arm>, <mailto:freebsd-arm-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arm-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm>, <mailto:freebsd-arm-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:02:56 -0000 > On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:51 AM, Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-arm = <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > Practically speaking, supposing I'd like the equivalent of an > entry-level server that is not a spacerocket (80 cores...) but not a > raspberry with the drives tapes to the raw board, is there anything > around? I have no complaints about the ThunderX: plenty of cores, easy to=20 spec with ram and storage, even the fancy NIC works without any=20 issue (once you sort out the slightly circuitous configuration). I=E2=80=99ve been tracking -CURRENT for a couple of years now with very=20= few issues. Its power draw is reasonable and its modest cooling=20 needs keep it well below spacerocket levels. Probably the price-per-performance formula doesn=E2=80=99t really pan = out great at this point, but as you point out, the space between the RPI and say the eMAG is a little thin. -Marcel
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