Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:34:59 +0100 (BST) From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <j.deboynepollard-newsgroups@ntlworld.com> To: Debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, supervision@list.skarnet.org Subject: djbwares version 5 Message-ID: <736737774.3548811.1490898899979.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe11.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> In-Reply-To: <f5a2e57a-9518-9cd1-8704-152898218359@NTLWorld.com> References: <f5a2e57a-9518-9cd1-8704-152898218359@NTLWorld.com>
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djbwares is now at version 5. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ This contains some long-overdue changes: ip6.int has been replaced by ip6.arpa in tinydns-data and dnscache, and rblsmtpd no longer falls back to using an RBL that has been defunct for many years. It also contains some additions: some UCSPI-SSL capability, a new gopherd UCSPI server to go alongside httpd and ftpd in publicfile, and most of the previously missing manual pages (including a few for commands which had no manuals in the original toolsets). There are no longer any placeholder manual pages for the "man" command. There are still a few manual pages that are only present in roff form, though. You can see gopherd in action: * gopher://jdebp.info./1/Repository/ From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Mar 30 19:26:29 2017 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE4AD266A2 for <freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.churchyard@userve.net) Received: from smtp-a.userve.net (smtp-outbound.userve.net [217.196.1.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.userve.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D5F0389 for <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.churchyard@userve.net) Received: from owa.usd-group.com (owa.usd-group.com [217.196.1.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-a.userve.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F287BE8 for <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:19:36 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=userve.net; s=201508; t=1490901576; bh=OE9Ln04OQyvZ8nBUj4kShoIM0kEDU8rnZEVWZ51VC4s=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=eTdS2pZZjK3FIn7uGMHhXfOrc5i10DFfVB+KxoVHz1LtVLGhOHESSjE4n9C6pNPaq pYNlDx6iiVBuTyaIi7GCrE75B9hBWKQAkhjYbkJTgjsv7nUhcUlU8ivbBbTc3ZxSAs y3FDJWVBcwhG93e5vM5YZ+lhz8x4xid3q4FatbbY= Received: from SERVER.ad.usd-group.com (192.168.0.1) by SERVER.ad.usd-group.com (192.168.0.1) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.847.32; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:19:35 +0100 Received: from SERVER.ad.usd-group.com ([fe80::b19d:892a:6fc7:1c9]) by SERVER.ad.usd-group.com ([fe80::b19d:892a:6fc7:1c9%12]) with mapi id 15.00.0847.030; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:19:35 +0100 From: Matt Churchyard <matt.churchyard@userve.net> To: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Sendmail conf files Thread-Topic: Sendmail conf files Thread-Index: AQHSqYhJA05PurJ9FUaUzW3xtZ+p6A== Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:19:34 +0000 Message-ID: <481fef207e2e457cb4f8a689d0ce4373@SERVER.ad.usd-group.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [89.145.233.102] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:56:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD <freebsd-hackers.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-hackers>, <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers>, <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:26:29 -0000 Hello, Not sure if this is the right list for this.. For me the most awkward part of updating a system using freebsd-update is w= hen it comes to merging files. The most common files that pop up seem to be= /etc/mail/sendmail.cf & /etc/mail/submit.cf, because these are included in= the base distribution and almost certainly change if you actually use Send= mail. In most cases this sort of issue has been solved by providing "default file= s" such as /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and letting the user override this with f= iles they create themselves. Obviously there is a concerted effort to make = sure users don't have to edit base files where possible so that they don't = get these sort of issues. For Sendmail, would it not make sense to remove these 2 .cf files from base= and update the sendmail rc.d script to run 'make install' in /etc/mail if = they don't exist? It may also be nice if the freebsd.* files were stored so= mewhere else such as /usr/share/sendmail, as these just causes confusion ab= out which files are actually used if you're new to it. Personally I'm on the side that would rather have Sendmail removed entirely= and replaced with a simple smtp submission daemon/lda but I think that dis= cussion has already been had. - Matt Churchyard
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