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Date:      Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:46:24 -0400
From:      John Von Essen <john@essenz.com>
To:        Doug Russell <drussell@saturn-tech.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: hacking SCO....
Message-ID:  <76A94E35-26E8-11D9-839A-0003933DDCFA@essenz.com>
In-Reply-To: <20041009044403.P39589-100000@mxb.saturn-tech.com>
References:  <20041009044403.P39589-100000@mxb.saturn-tech.com>

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This may be a dumb question, but if you make a cpio tape archive from 
data on an SCO system (HTFS filesystem), you can still restore the data 
off the tape to another system, like FreeBSD with a UFS filesystem, 
right?

And the followup, can FreeBSD run SCO binaries (SCO Unix 5.0.1)? I am 
going to try and convert these people from their SCO box over to a 
FreeBSD system. Just want to make sure the data will come off the tape.

-John

On Oct 9, 2004, at 6:51 AM, Doug Russell wrote:

>
> On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Sergey Babkin wrote:
>
>> Try to use the "Verify" menu from the Adaptec BIOS. It finds and tries
>> to re-map the bad sectors (it tries to preserve data during this too,
>> unless the sector is completely unreadable).
>
> The verify commands issued by the BIOS are virtually useless compared 
> to
> the type of tests done my sformat.  If you enable automatic read
> re-allocation, it is almost the same as simply reading your whole disk
> with dd.
>
>>> I do the full 14 pattern tests before I put a SCSI disk in service.
>>
>> When a disk starts losing blocks like this, usually they only multiply
>> over time. The best thing you can do is replace the disk and
>> move the data before you lost more of it.
>
> NO!  Not necessarily!
>
> If a disk has simply grown a few new defects since it was new, it does 
> not
> necessarily mean it is going to die.  I have many disks that had minor 
> bad
> spots on them that weren't even always found by the factory format
> routines, or had appeared since (due to transport, debris in the HDA, 
> poor
> holding power for the magnetic fields in some area, etc).  If the drive
> passes through a few full patern tests without problems and doesn't
> continue to grow new defects, it is likely just fine.
>
> I've got all kinds of old SCSI disks that were 'discarded' due to 
> errors.
> Only a couple are truly dead...  the rest have been running for years 
> with
> no problems after making a real grown defect list from the pattern 
> tests.
>
> This is something I learned many many years ago when running my old
> Miniscribe 3650s on a Perstor high density controller.  It formated the
> drives to 31 sectors per track instead of 17.  Hard on the disks, and 
> the
> media, but a good drive, after being properly tested, would run 
> flawlessly
> for years being hammered 24/7 on BBS machines.  Got 78 megs per drive
> instead of 42.whatever it was.  :)
>
> Later......						<Doug>
>
>
>
John Von Essen (john@essenz.com)
President, Essenz Consulting (www.essenz.com)
Phone: (800) 248-1736
Fax: (800) 852-3387



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