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Date:      Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:10:01 -0800
From:      Devin Teske <devin.teske@fisglobal.com>
To:        Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Somewhat OT: Is Full Command Logging Possible?
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On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

> On 12/18/2012 08:03 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>>=20
>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 12/18/2012 07:33 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> One further question, if I may.  If I do this:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>   sudo su -
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Will log_input record everything I do once I've been promoted to
>>>>> root?  I ask because my initial experiments seem to show that all
>>>>> that's getting recorded is the content of the sudo command itself,
>>>>> not the subsequent actions=85
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Correct, sudo is blind to the actions performed once the command reque=
sted is executed (in this case, "su" and subsequently a shell followed by m=
ore actions).
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Actually, I just tried this with both log_input and log_output options =
enabled.
>>> It seems that it *can* see into the promoted shell with a few caveats:
>>>=20
>>>  - Command output is logged immediately, but command inputs appear to o=
nly
>>>    be written to the log when you exit the promoted shell.  This may be
>>>    not quite right - there may have not been enough input to cause a
>>>    write flush to the log.
>>>=20
>>>  - The logging seems to be able to see into a spawned subshell, but
>>>    I don't think it can see input/output if you, say, kick off an xterm.
>>>=20
>>=20
>> What about if you do "sudo vim" and then type ":sh" ?
>=20
> Yep, I just tried that too.  It catches that.  It also catches
> the in/output of subshells - like, say, kicking off sh interactively.
> Similarly, if you're running text-based emacs, it catches the output
> of spawning to a shell from there and doing things.
>=20
> The only restriction I have run into so far, it that - for obvious
> reasons - sudo cannot see into what you're doing if you kick off
> an X application like xterm or graphical emacs, for instance.
>=20

What about screen or tmux? (wondering if the transition into multiplexed sh=
ell is anywhere as opaque as X11).
--=20
Devin

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