Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 12:45:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> To: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> Cc: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2W Message-ID: <785049566.4.1744713942190@mailrelay> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B1FSigYvo7JSocPncCCHTeOsNnHPHvsROHVxgZW6ZuBkbbYuw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CA%2B1FSig7cE2_qP2GvbjTV34rDqucto-w5o4Ymyou9fVQ21WO=g@mail.gmail.com> <492f6f91-9ce2-497f-9ac1-2c6c7315790b@FreeBSD.org> <e1daada1-e947-4398-9c74-efd1136e7d5c@littlepinkcloud.com> <357901C9-10F1-4041-9BB2-CFE3FF863A82@yahoo.com> <724ADF41-02A6-4452-9AB2-0F7DF376592D@yahoo.com> <CA%2B1FSigAYEVu3eUhFLWOA2e3SeQi4cN_EYT8CpsQWUEcxmaVSA@mail.gmail.com> <13B1A133-8AE6-4588-B3FD-7B66867325C8@yahoo.com> <CA%2B1FSiiNcFR=61O7hmAHSpqXWLghNJagim_-4A2OOuJtX_cvrA@mail.gmail.com> <8bf4162b-64a0-4ec0-95b9-5f71e6ae95cc@pobox.com> <66F95296-09D2-4FE4-BD1C-73B672CFA039@yahoo.com> <CA%2B1FSijdHnKhi_KMpYOgdaLSJb27OWVTD7Otu96gtc2HvffqiA@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSig15JXL-=qpA8%2Bz1w6D146ZE%2Bkn7xZpcPy0vg06vmwEYw@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSigYvo7JSocPncCCHTeOsNnHPHvsROHVxgZW6ZuBkbbYuw@mail.gmail.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
------=_Part_3_1372017674.1744713940841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, That version of FreeBSD should be able to work. But I never tried it. =C3= =B0=C2=9F=C2=A4=C2=9E But I have to disappoint you that Firefox is not available as a pre-build p= ackage for 32 bits arm as the build crashes with an out of memory error. Here you can find what packages are currently available: https://www.freshp= orts.org/www/firefox#packages Here are the recent build failures of that port: https://portsfallout.com/f= allout?port=3Dwww%2Ffirefox%24 This is the latest build failure report on 32 bit arm: https://lists.freebs= d.org/archives/freebsd-pkg-fallout/2025-March/738410.html In the report you can find the error message: "rustc-LLVM ERROR: out of mem= ory" I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you are trying to squeeze an ele= phant (firefox) into a really tiny car (rpi 0, 512 MB). Which doesn't mean you can't enjoy engineering your system to make it all w= ork. Just wanted to help save some time by providing some pointers to the Firefo= x package build logs. Regards, Ronald. =C3=82=20 Van: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> Datum: dinsdag, 15 april 2025 12:09 Aan: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> CC: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2W >=20 > I think,this version :=20 > =C3=82=20 > https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-1= 4.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz > =C3=82=20 > or, maybe, Firefox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For example,insta= lling the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi zero (if it exists)= ,according with this post : > =C3=82=20 >=20 > How can I configure Firefox to assume I have less memory?=20 > just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least in= Linux... > =C3=82=20 > Mario. > =C3=82=20 > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> w= rote: >>=20 >> Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zero = 2W ? >> =C3=82=20 >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16AM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> w= rote: >>>=20 >>> I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the = raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses... ( >>> =C3=82=20 >>>=20 >>> I'm looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard like that I've bought = (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard.=20 >>>=20 >>> I need this conversion because FreeBSD on the Raspy (and not only here)= does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or if it does,they will= not work. I found this adapter : >>>=20 >>> https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004 >>>=20 >>> I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. Basically what I= want to do to reach the final goal are the following tasks :=20 >>>=20 >>> =C3=82=20 >>>=20 >>> 1) I attach the BT dongle >>>=20 >>> 2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for the signal >>>=20 >>> 3) I attach your adapter >>>=20 >>> 4) I do the pairing >>>=20 >>> 5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device and it starts workin= g. >>>=20 >>> =C3=82=20 >>>=20 >>> =C3=82=20 >>>=20 >>> I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can exonerate FreeBSD fro= m recognition or maybe it's better to say make it work,the BT dongle that I= use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard will be r= ecognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on FreeBSD installed on the = Raspy. >>>=20 >>> =C3=82=20 >>>=20 >>> closed parentheses ) >>>=20 >>> =C3=82=20 >>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59AM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> > On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote: >>>> >> Why isn't there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberry pi = zero 2W ? >>>> > >>>> > Hello Mario, >>>> > >>>> > You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that = you're demanding that others do work, gratis, for you. >>>> > >>>> > Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is: >>>> > >>>> > "Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms, specific= ally the Zero 2 W?" >>>> > >>>> > I haven't checked recently, but one of the issues I've seen preventi= ng a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireless driv= er (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if the sit= uation has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work. >>>> > >>>>=20 >>>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi does not list >>>> any RPi* has having "WiFi" OK. It explicitly lists >>>> "Unsupported" for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 . >>>> As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any >>>> built-in WiFi or the like. >>>>=20 >>>> In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context. >>>>=20 >>>> =3D=3D=3D >>>> Mark Millard >>>> marklmi at yahoo.com >>>>=20 >>>> =C3=82 >>>=20 >>> =C3=82=20 >>> --=20 >>> Mario. >>=20 >> =C3=82=20 >> --=20 >> Mario. >=20 > =C3=82=20 > --=20 > Mario. =C3=82=20 ------=_Part_3_1372017674.1744713940841 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body>Hi,<br> <br> That version of FreeBSD should be able to work. But I never tried it. =C3= =B0=C2=9F=C2=A4=C2=9E<br> But I have to disappoint you that Firefox is not available as a pre-build p= ackage for 32 bits arm as the build crashes with an out of memory error.<br= > <br> Here you can find what packages are currently available: <a href=3D"https:/= /www.freshports.org/www/firefox#packages">https://www.freshports.org/www/fi= refox#packages</a><br> Here are the recent build failures of that port: <a href=3D"https://portsfa= llout.com/fallout?port=3Dwww%2Ffirefox%24">https://portsfallout.com/fallout= ?port=3Dwww%2Ffirefox%24</a><br> This is the latest build failure report on 32 bit arm: <a href=3D"https://l= ists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg-fallout/2025-March/738410.html">https= ://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg-fallout/2025-March/738410.html</a= ><br> In the report you can find the error message: "rustc-LLVM ERROR: out of mem= ory"<br> <br> I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you are trying to squeeze an ele= phant (firefox) into a really tiny car (rpi 0, 512 MB).<br> <br> Which doesn't mean you can't enjoy engineering your system to make it all w= ork.<br> <br> Just wanted to help save some time by providing some pointers to the Firefo= x package build logs.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Ronald.<br> <br> =C3=82 <p><strong>Van:</strong> Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com><br> <strong>Datum:</strong> dinsdag, 15 april 2025 12:09<br> <strong>Aan:</strong> Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com><br> <strong>CC:</strong> Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>, freebsd-arm= @freebsd.org<br> <strong>Onderwerp:</strong> Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBer= ry Pi Zero 2W</p> <blockquote style=3D"padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5p= x; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px"> <div class=3D"MessageRFC822Viewer" id=3D"P"> <div class=3D"MultipartAlternativeViewer"> <div class=3D"TextHTMLViewer" id=3D"P.P.P"> <div> <div>I think,this version : </div> <div>=C3=82 </div> <div><a href=3D"https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/= 14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz" target=3D"_blank">htt= ps://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-R= ELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz</a></div> <div>=C3=82 </div> <div>or, maybe, Firefox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For example,in= stalling the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi zero (if it exis= ts),according with this post :<br> =C3=82 <div class=3D"gmail-bbCodeBlock gmail-bbCodeBlock--unfurl gmail-js-unfurl g= mail-fauxBlockLink" style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:25.2px"> <div class=3D"gmail-contentRow" style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:25.2px"= > <div class=3D"gmail-contentRow-figure gmail-contentRow-figure--fixedSmall g= mail-js-unfurl-figure" style=3D"font-size:16px"><img alt=3D"superuser.com" = class=3D"gmail-bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" src=3D"https://cdn.sstatic.net/Site= s/superuser/Img/apple-touch-icon@2.png?v=3De869e4459439"></div> <div class=3D"gmail-contentRow-main" style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:25= .2px"> <h3 class=3D"gmail-contentRow-header gmail-js-unfurl-title" style=3D"font-s= ize:16px;line-height:25.2px"><a class=3D"gmail-link gmail-link--external gm= ail-fauxBlockLink-blockLink" href=3D"https://superuser.com/questions/459448= /how-can-i-configure-firefox-to-assume-i-have-less-memory" style=3D"font-si= ze:16px;line-height:25.2px" target=3D"_blank">How can I configure Firefox t= o assume I have less memory? </a></h3> </div> </div> </div> just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least in L= inux...</div> <div>=C3=82 </div> <div>Mario.</div> </div> =C3=82 <div class=3D"gmail_quote"> <div class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06PM Mario Marietto &l= t;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@= gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div>Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zer= o 2W ?</div> =C3=82 <div class=3D"gmail_quote"> <div class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16AM Mario Marietto <= ;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@g= mail.com</a>> wrote:</div> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div> <div>I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the= raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses... (</div> <div> <div> <p>=C3=82 </p> </div> <div> <p>I'm looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard like that I've bought (= LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard. </p> <p>I need this conversion because FreeBSD on the Raspy (and not only here) = does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or if it does,they will = not work. I found this adapter :<br> <br> <a href=3D"https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004" target=3D"_blank"= >https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004</a><br>; <br> I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. Basically what I wan= t to do to reach the final goal are the following tasks : </p> </div> <div> <p>=C3=82 </p> </div> <div> <p>1) I attach the BT dongle</p> </div> <div> <p>2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for the signal</p> </div> <div> <p>3) I attach your adapter</p> </div> <div> <p>4) I do the pairing</p> </div> <div> <p>5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device and it starts working= .</p> </div> <div> <p>=C3=82 </p> </div> <div> <p>=C3=82 </p> <p>I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can <span><span>exonerate = FreeBSD from recognition or maybe it's better to say make it work,</span></= span>the BT dongle that I use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....= if the keyboard will be recognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on = FreeBSD installed on the Raspy.</p> <p>=C3=82 </p> <p>closed parentheses )</p> </div> </div> </div> =C3=82 <div class=3D"gmail_quote"> <div class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59AM Mark Millard <<= a href=3D"mailto:marklmi@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">marklmi@yahoo.com</a>= > wrote:</div> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41= , Zach Metzinger <<a href=3D"mailto:zmetzing@pobox.com" target=3D"_blank= ">zmetzing@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:<br> >> Why isn't there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberry pi= zero 2W ?<br> ><br> > Hello Mario,<br> ><br> > You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that yo= u're demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.<br> ><br> > Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:<br> ><br> > "Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms, specifical= ly the Zero 2 W?"<br> ><br> > I haven't checked recently, but one of the issues I've seen preventing= a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireless driver= (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if the situa= tion has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work.<br> ><br> <br> <a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi" target=3D"_blank">h= ttps://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi</a> does not list<br> any RPi* has having "WiFi" OK. It explicitly lists<br> "Unsupported" for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .<br> As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any<br> built-in WiFi or the like.<br> <br> In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.<br> <br> =3D=3D=3D<br> Mark Millard<br> marklmi at <a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">yahoo.com</a><br> <br> =C3=82 </blockquote> </div> <div>=C3=82 </div> <br> <span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span> <div class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.</div> </blockquote> </div> <div>=C3=82 </div> <br> <span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span> <div class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.</div> </blockquote> </div> <div>=C3=82 </div> <br> <span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span> <div class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.</div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> =C3=82 </body></html> ------=_Part_3_1372017674.1744713940841--
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?785049566.4.1744713942190>