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Date:      Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:07:29 -0600
From:      "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>
To:        Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl>
Cc:        Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Aristedes Maniatis <ari@ish.com.au>
Subject:   Re: getting to 4K disk blocks in ZFS
Message-ID:  <7D0869A9-C114-4C4F-877A-3FB26AD7737D@scsiguy.com>
In-Reply-To: <541230F1.3060402@digiware.nl>
References:  <540FF3C4.6010305@ish.com.au> <A0A549F7A4094F519A3660697AB4983F@multiplay.co.uk> <54114029.3060507@FreeBSD.org> <2128347.Ah5i0RTCvp@overcee.wemm.org> <541230F1.3060402@digiware.nl>

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On Sep 11, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl> =
wrote:

> On 11-9-2014 19:49, Peter Wemm wrote:
>>> Another downside is 1/4th of uberblocks, 32 vs 128.
>>> Also, automatic sector size detection works great for me and I've =
never had
>>> a need to manually tweak ashift.
>>=20
>> Unfortunately, I have.  Same drive connected two different ways:
>>=20
>> da12 at mps1 bus 0 scbus1 target 11 lun 0
>> da12: <ATA ST4000VN000-1H41 SC43> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device=20=

>> da12: 600.000MB/s transfers
>> da12: Command Queueing enabled
>> da12: 3815447MB (7814037168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 486401C)
>>=20
>> ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0
>> ada1: <ATA ST4000VN000-1H41 SC43> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
>> ada1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes)
>> ada1: Command Queueing enabled
>> ada1: 3815447MB (7814037168 512 byte sectors:  16H 63S/T 16383C)
>> ada1: quirks=3D0x1<4K>
>>=20
>> The 4k flag is missing when it's on the sas controller.  The Ident =
strings are=20
>> changed.
>>=20
>> This came up elsewhere recently.
>=20
> I reported the same fact for the new set of WD REDs I installed.
> Seems that ada and da have different quirks tables...
> So disks on SATA connectors on the motherboard are diagnosed as being =
4Kb.
> The disks on my twa don't get the quirk and are considered 512b
>=20
> =97WjW

I=92m surprised that we have to constantly add quirks.  Are these drives =
really failing to report their ata params correctly?  Is there a reason =
we don=92t currently utilize the ata params data (which is already =
fetched for trim/unmap detection) to also set lbppbe (logical block per =
physical block exponent) and lalba (lowest aligned lba)?  We may find =
that many of the existing quirks are unnecessary if we fix the probe =
code.

=97
Justin=



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