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Date:      Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:37:56 +0100
From:      Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net>
To:        Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
Cc:        Florian Smeets <flo@FreeBSD.org>, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy
Message-ID:  <7a7501f71442d27f6d8c1c0a16f247c1@mail.infomaniak.com>
In-Reply-To: <b10cc27c-d2f9-5c81-115b-2f577ff6f825@grosbein.net>
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On 2024-03-12T15:15:49.000+01:00, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> wrot=
e:
>  12.03.2024 3:24, Daniel Engberg =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
>=20
> [skip]
>=20
>=20
> >    Another possible option would be to add something to the port's mate=
data that makes pkg aware and easy notiable
> >  like using a specific color for portname and related information to si=
gnal
> >  like if it's red it means abandonware and potentially reduced security=
.
> =20
> Of course, we need to inform users but not enforce. Tools, not policy.
>=20
Eugene

Hi,

Given that we seem to agree on these points in general why should such port=
s still be kept in the tree? We don't have such tooling available and it wo=
nt likely happen anytime soon. Because it's convenient for a committer who =
uses these in a controlled network despite being potentially harmful for ot=
hers?

Just to be clear, I'm after where do we draw the line in general.

If we look at other distros in general based on availability the decision s=
eems to favour overall user security than "convenience". Given that we have=
 security policies etc in place I'd say that we in general are leaning towa=
rds user security?

Best regards,
Daniel



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