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Date:      Mon, 28 Dec 2020 17:04:08 +0300
From:      abi <abi@abinet.ru>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: portmaster new development
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On 28.12.2020 16:16, Stefan Esser wrote:
> Am 28.12.20 um 11:11 schrieb abi via freebsd-ports:> I build my ports 
> in poudriere in VM without zfs or ssd on pre-Sandy
>> Bridge CPU. I don't have enough memory or disk space, so I don't use 
>> tmpfs or ccache either. I migrated from portmaster when it was 
>> abandoned several years ago and don't think I'll come back, 
>> especially if new portmaster will be written on bash. The idea behind 
>> portmaster was zero dependencies, so it doesn't brake after major 
>> upgrades.
>
> You are free to use poudriere and it definitely is the official tool
> for FreeBSD package building (and I have to use it myself and it has
> cost me a lot of time rebuilding broken poudriere jails and keeping
> them in state that I can use them to test new ports on a number of
> different releases as well as i386 plus amd64).
>
> And while you are free to never again use portmaster, telling people
> that it has been abandoned is just a _lie_ and I'd want to ask you to
> stop telling it. It has been continuously maintained for decades.
>
I remember portmaster marked as deprecated in 2016. I've switched to 
poudriere because of that. So, it _was_ abandoned when I migrated. It is 
good that it is not, the more options - the better. But some people here 
telling that poudriere requires ZFS and powerful dedicated hardware, I 
just pointed that they are wrong.




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