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Date:      Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:44:59 +0900 (JST)
From:      Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: One last item: CNS1102 support removal
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Hi=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A>From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.co=
m>=0A>To: Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> =0A>Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.=
org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>=0A>Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 03:01=0A>Subject: Re=
: One last item: CNS1102 support removal=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Wed=
, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> wrote:=0A>=
=0A>Hi=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>sys/arm/ralink is work fine. Please do not remove this=
.=0A>=0A>=0A>OK. Do you have a kernel config file we can commit to the tree=
? I don't even know if it compiles, apart from your dmesg posts. I wasn't s=
ure based on your email, so I thought I'd ask for clarification.=0A=0AThis =
is kernel configure file.=0A=0Ahttps://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/arm=
/conf/RT1310?view=3Dmarkup=0A=0A=0Admesg have pci log but not commit yet.=
=0A=0AThanks=0A=0AHiroki Mori=0A=0A>=0A>=0A>CNS1102 is 922T which is armv4.=
 I couldn't even find an eval board to try to boot it on, nor any board wit=
h more than 16MB on the consumer gear that it's in on ebay. And it's always=
 a pain to get stuff on gear of that era unless you get lucky...=0A>=A0=0A>=
Why do you want remove armv5t ? armv5t is still alive.=0A>=0A>=0A>The numbe=
r of users on armv5t is declining. We're not removing it for 12 (since ther=
e's several known users), but will have a discussion about that after we br=
anch 12 whether or not we'll keep it for 13. Since there are users, we need=
 to understand the impact of keeping the port or retiring it on them. Unlik=
e these early parts where there's no known users...=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Warner=
=0A>=A0=0A>Thanks=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Hiroki Mori=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>----- Original Me=
ssage -----=0A>>>From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>=0A>>>=0A>>>To: Mori Hir=
oki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> =0A>>>Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ar=
m@freebsd.org>=0A>>>Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 02:37=0A>>>Subject: Re: One last i=
tem: CNS1102 support removal=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>On W=
ed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> wrote:=0A>=
>>=0A>>>Hi.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>I make fdt eventtimer intrng to cns11xx.=0A>>>>=0A=
>>>>https://gist.github.com/ yamori813/ ae047a28a825aac255e436fd8ccaf7 85=
=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Still not work...=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Clang is very slow on c=
ross compile. It's take 7 hour.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>My cns11xx target Planex MZK-W=
04G is 64MByte ram.=0A>>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>OK. I could only find a board w=
ith 16MB. 64MB is barely enough these days to do useful things with FreeBSD=
 unless you're a super user.=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>It's bigger than rt1310 target.=
=0A>>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>There's no RALINK kernel config I could find, even=
 though the rt1310 code is in the tree. What have I missed?=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>I=
 almost abandon...=0A>>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>So are you abandoning both platf=
orms? Or just CNS1102?=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Are you OK with removing one or bot=
h of these platforms?=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Warner=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=
Hiroki Mori=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>----- Original Message -----=0A>>>>> From: =
Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>=0A>>>>> To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd=
-arm@freebsd.org>=0A>>>>> Cc: =0A>>>>> Date: 2018/7/18, Wed 22:58=0A>>>>> S=
ubject: One last item: CNS1102 support removal=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>T here's one=
 last item in arm land for 12 I'd like to remove: The Econa /=0A>>>>> Caviu=
m CN1102 support.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> It's literally received no updates since=
 it was committed in 2010, apart=0A>>>>> from others doing kernel sweeps. I=
t's unmaintained. Strike one.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> Second, it will be the last =
armv4 port in the tree after I remove Atmel. We=0A>>>>> haven't had FreeBSD=
 running on armv4 Atmel since FreeBSD 8. Strike two.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> Third=
, the original machines were released in 2005 or 2006. There's only=0A>>>>=
=0A> one known board, according to https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ Cavium, and i=
t came=0A>>>>> with only 16MB. So it's old and doesn't have much RAM. While=
 barely=0A>>>>> possible, in theory, to run FreeBSD/arm in 16MB, it's a hug=
e PITA. Strike=0A>>>>> three.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> Forth, I can find no mention=
 of it in the archives or bug database. Strike=0A>>>>> four.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>=
>> I'm lead to the conclusion that this is no longer maintained, has no use=
rs,=0A>>>>> the hardware it was in has insufficient resources to run FreeBS=
D well and=0A>>>>> these things are unlikely to change. Therefore, we shoul=
d remove it.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> Comments?=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> Warner=0A>>>>> ___=
___________________________ _________________=0A>>>>> freebsd-arm@freebsd.o=
rg mailing list=0A>>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/ mailman/listinfo/freebsd=
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ebsd.org"=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A>



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