Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:20:49 -0700 From: Doug Wellington <doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov> To: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov Subject: Re: JDK 1.02 Message-ID: <9608240420.AA02605@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov> In-Reply-To: "Your message of Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:44:31 CST." <199608231644.KAA07194@rocky.mt.sri.com>
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Previously: >Java is here to stay whether we like it or not [...] Is this REALLY true? I mean, will Java continue to be a "force"? Or is this just another phrase from the spin doctors? Lots of people have sworn that lots of languages were the end all of programming - look at lisp/scheme, ada, visual basic... (All have loyal followers, but how much of a "force" are they? ...well, visual basic... hmmm...) What is The Real Deal(tm) with Java anyway? Once you get through the hype, is Java anything more than C++ without pointers? If the world becomes dependent upon applets, then maybe Java has a place, but when everyone realizes that it is just the mainframe mentality repackaged for the nineties, will it really last? Do we really want to be dependent upon some server somewhere for what are really just throw-away viewers? Do we even have the bandwidth to do it? Heck, I can't stand using graphical web browsers because of the HUGE noise to content ratio now! I'm not sure I want to wait for some inane little applet to transfer... If I need it, I would rather take the time to set up a viewer once and know what functions it provides rather than wait for some latest and greatest viewer to be transferred, used and thrown away... Am I just a stick-in-the-mud? (Or have I just been reading too many William Shatner Tek novels lately?) -Doug ...who remembers buying the "Smart" system back in 1986 - an integrated suite of applications, word processor, spreadsheet, database, macro language, etc - that ran on a PC with 640K, 20MB hard disk... Now-a-days we have integrated suites of applications that won't run in 8MB RAM or 100MB of disk! And are we any more productive?????? (But gee, the apps look so pretty!) Doug Wellington doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov System and Network Administrator US Geological Survey, Tucson, AZ Project Office According to proposed Federal guidelines, this message is a "non-record". Hmm, I wonder if _everything_ I say is a "non-record"...? FreeBSD and Apache - the best real tools for the virtual world! Check out www.freebsd.org and www.apache.org... Just say NO to Netscape Navigator!
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