Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fallout from the CVS discussion Message-ID: <99E30CDE-AC9D-4615-8830-5EC511EE1BBB@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <50563EA6.1050908@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAF6rxg=qVUHe7tc9_AXgRdUtkoHOrixwNw-GsN7C7_r0FR990A@mail.gmail.com> <20120916053523.GJ37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <CAF6rxg=mm9OeVDX-dYC=FwnAZ-6pGjcRad=Gm9-mLx3QiPtqVQ@mail.gmail.com> <51B48339-D1FA-49CD-B582-1C58855B024E@bsdimp.com> <50563EA6.1050908@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/16/2012 09:03, Warner Losh wrote: >> One of the things we are trying to move towards is that current can = be cut into a release branch on short notice. We need to keep it as = close to production ready as possible. People >=20 > I find your response here interesting Warner, given that when I have > opposed what I felt were too-drastic changes in HEAD (such as removing > sysinstall before a post-install configuration solution was ready) = your > response has been, "It's HEAD, we can break things ... let's see what > happens!" sysinstall replacement was a different discussion, with differing = technical criteria. Also, using it against me now for consistency likely isn't so good. I = think we moved too quickly, in retrospect, on that. That experience = suggests we be more cautious in the future, including for things like = this. > Now that you are the one opposed to the change, we need to > keep HEAD "close to production ready." Look at bz's push in this area. Also, I'm not opposed to this change, = just opposed to this change today, as explained elsewhere. > There is a compromise solution here that I have been hesitant to offer > because I was really hoping that sanity would prevail. But why not > switch the default MK_CVS knob over to "no" now? That will give us an > opportunity to see if there really will be any fallout, and easily fix > it if there is. I believe that's already been done. Warner
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