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Date:      Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:21:19 +0100
From:      Fleuriot Damien <ml@my.gd>
To:        Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Testing Facility
Message-ID:  <9A5C98EC-7BDF-482E-A663-F7ED7CB88747@my.gd>
In-Reply-To: <CAOgwaMsdft6yYG3Pk75WRrrg40XvMMQd=hWpem6Cs6JcGt9wCA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk =
<m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> =
wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 21.02.13 15:04, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
>>=20
>>> Dear All ,
>>>=20
>>> During development of FreeBSD , testing is very vital .
>>>=20
>>> To my knowledge ( which may not be correct ) , at present ,
>>> Tinderbox is used to only compilation correctness ,
>>> means "Syntax" is tested .
>>>=20
>>> I have downloaded
>>>=20
>>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/**FreeBSD/snapshots/amd64/amd64/**
>>> ISO-IMAGES/10.0/FreeBSD-10.0-**CURRENT-amd64-20130216-**
>>> =
r246877-release.iso<ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/amd64/amd6=
4/ISO-IMAGES/10.0/FreeBSD-10.0-CURRENT-amd64-20130216-r246877-release.iso>=

>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> and tried to install it on an Intel DG965WH main board .
>>>=20
>>> During the first booting , it generated a panic message and entered =
into
>>> debug mode .
>>>=20
>>> For me it has crashed , because I do not know what to do in debug =
mode .
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On this main board , it is possible to completely install and =
successfully
>>> run
>>>=20
>>> Windows 7 ,
>>> Fedora 15 , 17 , 18 ,
>>> Mageia
>>> OpenSuSE
>>>=20
>>=20
>> I stopped right here. None of the software you compare =
FreeBSD-current to
>> is an development build. On the other hand, you downloaded an =
cutting-edge
>> development build of FreeBSD (not released software) and expected it =
to be
>> stable. It is not. This is why it is not released. It might not =
always
>> break, but it might also damage your data and (possibly) hardware =
too.
>> Unless you agree to accept these risks, you should not play with
>> development versions of software.
>>=20
>> Having said that, the DG965WH is quite old hardware and any stable =
version
>> of FreeBSD should work just fine there. You are unlikely to see any =
benefit
>> of the unreleased versions that are still in development, such as
>> supporting "very new" hardware etc.
>>=20
>> Sorry if any of this sounds too hard, but it is reflecting reality. =
This
>> mailing list, freebsd-current exists to facilitate discussion between
>> those, who know they are running highly unstable, still in =
development
>> version of FreeBSD that needs lots of work to become more stable.
>>=20
>> Daniel
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> I will not support your views . My main idea is to describe how we can =
help
> to improve FreeBSD testing .
>=20
> The problem is " A snapshot intended for testing , is NOT able to =
boot." .
>=20
> If you ask , do I know what I am doing : My answer is I am working in
> computing since 1970 .
>=20


And in all that time you've never heard of nightly builds being broken ?




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