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Date:      Fri, 5 Nov 2010 23:04:19 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <gcooper@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        jpaetzel@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: txt-sysinstall scrapped
Message-ID:  <AANLkTi=G2UEj4P=h=B7Tr58vg7RC9McMZq-q73ArDWOZ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20101105.230617.74669306.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> =A0 =A0 Just to add to that (because I do find it a novel idea), 1) how
>> are you going to properly prevent man in the middle attacks (SSL, TLS,
>> etc?), and 2) what webserver would you use?
>
> https or ssh.
>
> We're also toying with the idea of having a partition that you could
> 'dd' your certs and keys to (so any system can customize the image
> with keys to make sure you were talking to who you think you are).
> We'd just reserve 1MB of space on partition s3. =A0We'd then check to
> see if there was a tar ball. =A0If so, we'd extract it and do the
> intelligent thing with the keys we find there.

Wouldn't it be better just to go with a read-write media solution
(USB) like Matt Dillon was suggesting at today then? Then again,
determining the root device to date is still a bit kludgy isn't it?

>> =A0 =A0 I bring up the former item because I wouldn't want my data going
>> unencrypted across any wire, and what BSD compatible web servers did
>> you guys have in store and who would maintain the server, and what
>> kinds of vulnerabilities would you be introducing by adding a service
>> which would be enabled by default at runtime?
>
> The web server would just be there at installation time. =A0You'd run it
> out of the ram disk and it would evaporate when the system reboots
> after it being installed.

Sure.

> Also, I'm not sure we even need to have to have a set of prompts. =A0If
> we do the web page right, we likely can just go directly to lynx...

Well... I like the curl idea a lot more for this approach (esp because
it supports more protocols than just http and ftp, whereas lynx is
constrained to ftp and http for the most part), but having both
solutions is more heavyweight for the task than it probably should be.

Cheers,
-Garrett



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