Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:54:57 -0700 From: Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com> To: freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: New pkg-message[.in] guideline idea Message-ID: <AANLkTikmI5oiE_NJ78uEAfHye9xfAbalzDOK7HCj451O@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinpbHAJB1XpvOiMO5uBCvTOuLNWjEGvjiHJ8dHt@mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTimAhMpVuTIj10XKW65Wl2c6zplyyjD83OO1Y-1I@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1006231636010.22303@tiktik.epipe.com> <AANLkTikl45HPa0qPn99ywCX_TI5Y3k2xcysQc8PLW6AO@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1006240204290.22303@tiktik.epipe.com> <AANLkTinpbHAJB1XpvOiMO5uBCvTOuLNWjEGvjiHJ8dHt@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:04 AM, David DEMELIER <demelier.david@gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/6/24 Janne Snabb <snabb@epipe.com>: >> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, David DEMELIER wrote: >> >>> 2010/6/23 Janne Snabb <snabb@epipe.com>: >>>> >>>> I find it completely useless and plainly stupid to edit the >>>> pkg-messages of all ports to include lots of equal signs for tty-based >>>> formatting purposes. >>> >>> We can take a long time to do that (we don't have to do it quickly), >>> but it could be useful to standardize it for one reason : >>> You will see that it's a message from the port maintainer/submitter >>> and not from the program itself! Sometimes configure scripts stage say >>> some useless things to the user. >> >> You obviously did not get my point. >> >> I fully agree with you that displaying a line of equals signs on >> tty based interfaces to make the messages stand out from other crap >> when installing ports makes sense, but I STRONGLY oppose to the >> idea of putting this visual formatting in the actual message files. >> It is just not the right place to put it in. >> > I see, so maybe in the future you would like some tools that can print > the message, like a GTK+ dialog, QT dialog, or an other tool, if it's > your point I agree. I don't specially want a equal "==" line, I would > just something consistent, why not : nothing ? Yes we can just print > the text without any visual characters, and the [future] tool will > print the message as it want. No, what he's saying is: - put the logic to print the separators into the appropriate bsd.*.mk file - remove all separators from all pkg-message* files That way, you can update the separators at any time by editing a single file, instead of editing 20,000+ pkg-message files. And, that way, future tools can override the separator set in the mk file. Leave the pkg-message files as unformatted text. Put the formatting into the mk file. Separate content from style. -- Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com
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