Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:14:22 -0600 From: Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> To: "Michael W. Lucas" <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc Message-ID: <B2B3E5C7-C9B0-4B6D-86CE-312D1F165DCD@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com>
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> On 4 Oct, 2017, at 10:16, Michael W. Lucas <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com> = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and > stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic. >=20 > Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book. >=20 > Some reviewers beg me not to include it. >=20 > Unfortunately, people will be reading af3e and considering it > definitive for the next several years. So I have to get a feel for > where things are going. :-/ >=20 > I've read a couple threads on portmaster's current problems/growing > pains and its looming difficulty with forthcoming flavors. >=20 > I've been a happy portmaster user for many years now. All things being > equal, if its future is still being debated I'm inclined to keep it in > the book. >=20 > Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple > poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the docs > quickly expand. My notes alone are longer than my af3e chapter > limits. (I'll probably publish "FreeBSD Packaging Misery^WMastery" in > 2018). >=20 > Truly, I'm not looking to start a flame war here. I only want a bit of > guidance on The Future... >=20 > =3D=3Dml Hi Michael, Poudriere is indeed intended to be the canonical port building and = management tool. It is what essentially the entire ports committer team = uses, it's what the clusters build with, and it is where support for new = features land first. Portmaster is a tried-and-tested tool for automating port builds. = Poudriere wants to be everything to everybody, but portmaster is as = simple to use as possible. The current issue is that portmaster is no = longer actively developed. Major new features are about to land in the = ports tree, and portmaster will either not support them, or will break = entirely. The official message is that everybody for whom Poudriere's workflow = works should migrate to Poudriere to avoid the impending breakage. Portmaster is still very much a part of the current landscape, and if = somebody steps in to fix it (which I have every expectation will happen = eventually), it will continue being a usable alternative. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org
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