Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:39:28 -0400 From: Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <B9955040.98A%lomifeh@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3D6FC789.74B7FB23@mindspring.com>
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On 08/30/02 03:29 PM, "Terry Lambert" <tlambert2@mindspring.com> wrote: > Lawrence Sica wrote: >>> Glasses keep near-sighted people in the gene pool longer than >>> they would otherwise be. Myopia is still an adverse condition. >> >> Well thing is this isn't always something you are born with you can develop >> it and not pass on the trait. [...] Now this does not mean my son will >> have eye problems, actually he seems to have really good vision. > > Environmental issues are not useful examples in this context, > whereas genetic ones are. 8-). > If everything is relative then its perfectly valid. Seriously environment influences genetics though. We evolve to suit our environment. ;) > >> It is always safer to be an ass when backed by the masses. If you know you >> can get away with it\, well most will push that as far as they can. Look at >> these KKK rallies. Ppl in the USA hate em, despise em mostly, but they know >> the state protects them so they speak out. > > ``The difference between "the masses" and "them asses" is in when > you hit the spacebar.'' How true. > > >>> Or if you can't win a conflict with all of society against you, >>> and are forced to cooperate. >> >> Well you could withdraw as well, go buy a cabin in the mountains, join a >> militia, etc etc. US society gives you an out. > > I pointed this out to him already. He basically argues that the > people being annoyed, not the people doing the annoying, should be > the ones to withdraw from society, even if there are billions of > the former, and only one of the latter. > Well the minority would withdraw not the majority. Imagine 250 million "cabins in the mountains" . > >>>> "Desperate" perhaps. "Misunderstood" definately. "Naughty" I refrain >>>> from using, it has too many sexual contexts that are inappropriate. ;) >>> >>> Rodney King was a fleeing felon in voilation of parole. >> >> "Can't we all just get along". Seriously, he may have been fleeing, but the >> beating he got was excessive. They are supposed to not lose control ,the >> police I mean. > > It was certainly excessive. And the overzealous officers got what > they deserved. But King did not "get what he deserved", and in fact, > charges were dropped, when they probably should not have been. > True that was a bad outcome. But in that case they were in such a pr nightmare it isn't surprising. > >>>> Trolls really do communicate data. >>> >>> Noise is not data. >> >> It depends, there is a need in any social group for one to mock what is, to >> question. Now do trolls mock for that purpose or do they mock just for the >> sake of it? > > Which brings us back to the issue of communication of demands; it > does no good to stampede the cattle, if your intent is to get them > to go to a particular spot. The result is statistically unlikely > to be the one you wanted when you started the stampede. --Larry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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