Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:49:11 -0700 From: "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com> To: FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Portmaster failing Message-ID: <C53B7AD2-3188-482F-9356-8AFC651C7135@kreme.com> In-Reply-To: <20200101222830.GA32466@home.opsec.eu> References: <8DDB987C-5276-4F35-BBD1-84043ED26E03@kreme.com> <E974C7FA-68A2-4B3F-B230-0DDF46AEEE4C@lastsummer.de> <D4A3ED2A-A208-44DD-876B-5CF3F8EE3541@kreme.com> <A8202C42-7EE5-4235-874A-D5D8C63E2413@lastsummer.de> <288FEB87-3D88-4696-BF83-6918DAE656E5@kreme.com> <CAP7rwcjS7jgBXO7kNDEQcOxVhkQjixf-i6S8NyMx2DJk96ZL4w@mail.gmail.com> <4F3040D5-0EA9-44B7-BD69-3CF57A2E19B8@kreme.com> <20200101222830.GA32466@home.opsec.eu>
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On 01 Jan 2020, at 15:28, Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> wrote: >> If FreeBSD is going to REQUIRE poudriere, then go ahead and do >> so. If not, then the other packages managers and the ports tree >> itself have to work without screwing the admin, failing to build >> for inexplicable reasons, inputting a dependency that breaks other >> packages, or my favorite, failing to update dependencies. >=20 > If we'd remove portmaster, we'd loose a relevant part of our > user-base, that's why is has not been removed. This caused > other issues, as you are well aware. If you are concerned about losing users without postmaster then fix = postmaster. Leaving a port manage that is =E2=80=9Cbroken=E2=80=9D is = not going to do anything but hurt everyone. > The open source community (and FreeBSD) really has problems with > the velocity of the software involved -- and can barely keep up. >=20 > So it's not that easy. Bit they are perfectly happy to drop support when the replacement = packages are still not up to snuff. >>> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major >>> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and >>> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this = switch. >>=20 >> Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the = class that I would call ???inexcusable???. If I did this on a job I = would (rightly) be immediately fired. >>=20 >> I would fire me if I did something like this. > If we fired every volunteer when some mishap has happened, we > would run of of volunteers very fast. This was the responsibility of a single volunteer? Removing openssl = without warning wasn=E2=80=99t something that was discussed over the = last six months? --=20 Lead me not into temptation, I can find the way.
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