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Date:      Tue, 15 Apr 2025 12:09:40 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2W
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I think,this version :

https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz

or, maybe, Firefox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For
example,installing the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi zero
(if it exists),according with this post :

[image: superuser.com]
How can I configure Firefox to assume I have less memory?
<https://superuser.com/questions/459448/how-can-i-configure-firefox-to-assume-i-have-less-memory>;
just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least in
Linux...

Mario.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W
> ?
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16 AM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the
>> raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses...  (
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard like that I've bought
>> (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard.
>>
>> I need this conversion because FreeBSD on the Raspy (and not only here)
>> does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or if it does,they will
>> not work.  I found this adapter :
>>
>> https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3004
>>
>> I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. Basically what I
>> want to do to reach the final goal are the following tasks :
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) I attach the BT dongle
>>
>> 2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for the signal
>>
>> 3) I attach your adapter
>>
>> 4) I do the pairing
>>
>> 5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device and it starts working.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can exonerate FreeBSD from
>> recognition or maybe it's better to say make it work,the BT dongle that
>> I use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard will be
>> recognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on FreeBSD installed on the
>> Raspy.
>>
>>
>> closed parentheses )
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59 AM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:
>>> >> Why isn't there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberry pi
>>> zero 2W ?
>>> >
>>> > Hello Mario,
>>> >
>>> > You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that
>>> you're demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:
>>> >
>>> > "Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms,
>>> specifically the Zero 2 W?"
>>> >
>>> > I haven't checked recently, but one of the issues I've seen preventing
>>> a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireless driver
>>> (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if the
>>> situation has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work.
>>> >
>>>
>>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi does not list
>>> any RPi* has having "WiFi" OK. It explicitly lists
>>> "Unsupported" for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .
>>> As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any
>>> built-in WiFi or the like.
>>>
>>> In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.
>>>
>>> ===
>>> Mark Millard
>>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>>
>
>
> --
> Mario.
>


-- 
Mario.

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<div dir="ltr"><div>I think,this version : </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz" target="_blank">https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz</a></div><div><br></div><div>or, maybe, Firefox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For 
example,installing the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi 
zero (if it exists),according with this post :<br>
<br>

	

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just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least 
in Linux...</div><div><br></div><div>Mario.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06 PM Mario Marietto &lt;<a href="mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target="_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W ?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16 AM Mario Marietto &lt;<a href="mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target="_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses...  (</div><div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I&#39;m looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard 
like that I&#39;ve bought (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard. </p><p class="MsoNormal">I
 need this conversion because FreeBSD
on the Raspy (and not only here) does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or if it does,they will not work.  I found this adapter :<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3004" target="_blank">https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3004</a><br>;
<br>
I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. 
Basically what I want to do to reach the final goal are the following 
tasks : 
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">1) I attach the BT dongle<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for the signal<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">3) I attach your adapter<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">4) I do the pairing<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device and it starts working.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal">I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can <span><span lang="EN">exonerate FreeBSD from recognition or 
maybe it&#39;s better to say make it work,</span></span>the BT dongle that I use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard will be recognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on FreeBSD installed on the Raspy.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">closed parentheses )</p></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59 AM Mark Millard &lt;<a href="mailto:marklmi@yahoo.com" target="_blank">marklmi@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41, Zach Metzinger &lt;<a href="mailto:zmetzing@pobox.com" target="_blank">zmetzing@pobox.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Why isn&#39;t there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberry pi zero 2W ?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello Mario,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that you&#39;re demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms, specifically the Zero 2 W?&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I haven&#39;t checked recently, but one of the issues I&#39;ve seen preventing a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireless driver (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if the situation has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work.<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
<a href="https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi</a>; does not list<br>
any RPi* has having &quot;WiFi&quot; OK. It explicitly lists<br>
&quot;Unsupported&quot; for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .<br>
As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any<br>
built-in WiFi or the like.<br>
<br>
In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.<br>
<br>
===<br>
Mark Millard<br>
marklmi at <a href="http://yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Mario.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Mario.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Mario.<br></div>

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