Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:08:36 +0200 From: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Docker Message-ID: <CA%2B1FSij0N-CRhMRXVUK81BWPTn0vDVcbQSF2Q11Zz%2BgJdL_Ddw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f3a86806377c2c92039eaf2765f5b85862de178.camel@riseup.net> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <8E16D624-2655-4A10-844A-93E4F63E9859@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <078a1cf8-7ae2-c593-615b-f5f37fa2b3eb@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSij9j922Nvv1Vhn43HznwpyGT99UZsU674G9hHWzR=UhvQ@mail.gmail.com> <06be3a1e-9319-1a21-88b9-4f87328ee127@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSijc%2B-OLNsyFNdR=jP3VzMi4zUE92i5iv9Pfg6AryDy_KQ@mail.gmail.com> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihVrJ8cZ4ZU6mMr0sKJsZ98V4fh2vpDLugw7MGj-%2BEBPg@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijL50mQ-HveBA4HZeNkSoaORv=aty-15nNLzn9amzY_nw@mail.gmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSigV_pPwVW%2BDd8WZYGcNQVt7%2BYOcsnJFoRhS6jL5A636pg@mail.gmail.com> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <CA%2B1FSihVPCQ6tp8u=aqnLyyOPpCMrnhYGcC8bCUgRbFHTdY5sA@mail.gmail.com> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <78F4160A-2D26-4A22-9139-A9132FC42688@ellael.org> <8f3a86806377c2c92039eaf2765f5b85862de178.camel@riseup.net>
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--000000000000c2e8ea05f9680b73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With this general attitude, full of firm convictions and systematic stigmatization of other people's ideas (when they aren't canonical), there is not enough space for the emergence of divergent ideas,ideas that can create innovation because they are able to break thought patterns became too static and historicised. It is a pity because in order to develop, progress needs to be nourished above all by unpopular and divergent ideas. I'm not talking specifically about porting docker to FreeBSD, but I'm talking about the way you express your ideas, which, in my opinion, aren't dynamic and open to changes and aren't ready to welcome innovations that come from other systems such as Linux, which always have something that's wrong. Some of you demonize Linux too much and you don't see the great amount of innovations it has brought. I like both Linux and FreeBSD and I am sad to read that the latter is always used less in the industry. There may be reasons, but few of you seem to realize that some of them are inherent to their own views about how FreeBSD should be. On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 9:32=E2=80=AFPM Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.n= et> wrote: > There are countless container approaches available under Linux. None of > these approaches are mature and almost all, if not all, will be phased > out before they are mature. > > I guess nobody wants to experience a Canonical and/or Google universe. > > Somewhere in the Internet I found "While Docker is a container runtime, > Kubernetes is a platform for running and managing containers from many > container runtimes". > > At next somebody will introduce a platform that does manage platforms > for platforms. An energy turnaround looks way different. > > --=20 Mario. --000000000000c2e8ea05f9680b73 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"m_-55360185400925631m_-4778369659037062598gmail= -tw-target-text-container"><div id=3D"m_-55360185400925631m_-47783696590370= 62598gmail-tw-target-text-container"><pre id=3D"m_-55360185400925631m_-4778= 369659037062598gmail-tw-target-text" style=3D"text-align:left" dir=3D"ltr">= <font size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" lang= =3D"en">With this general attitude, full of firm convictions and systematic= stigmatization of other <br>people's ideas (when they aren't canon= ical), there is not enough space for the emergence of <br>divergent ideas,i= deas that can create innovation because they are able to break thought <br>= patterns became too static and historicised. It is a pity because in order = to develop, <br>progress needs to be nourished above all by unpopular and d= ivergent ideas. <br>I'm not talking </span></font><span lang=3D"en"><fo= nt size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">specific= ally about porting docker to FreeBSD, but I'm talking about the way <br= >you express your ideas, which, in my opinion, aren't dynamic and open = to changes and aren't<br>ready to welcome innovations that come from ot= her systems such as Linux, which always have<br>something that's wrong.= Some of you demonize Linux too much and you don't see the great <br>am= ount of innovations it has brought. I like both Linux and FreeBSD and I am = sad to read<br>that the latter is always used less in the industry. There m= ay be reasons, but few of you <br>seem to realize that some of them are inh= erent to their own views about how FreeBSD <br>should be.</span></font></sp= an></pre></div><pre id=3D"m_-55360185400925631m_-4778369659037062598gmail-t= w-target-text" style=3D"text-align:left" dir=3D"ltr"></pre></div></div><br>= <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Ap= r 15, 2023 at 9:32=E2=80=AFPM Ralf Mardorf <<a href=3D"mailto:ralf-mardo= rf@riseup.net" target=3D"_blank">ralf-mardorf@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>= </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b= order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There are countless= container approaches available under Linux. None of<br> these approaches are mature and almost all, if not all, will be phased<br> out before they are mature.<br> <br> I guess nobody wants to experience a Canonical and/or Google universe.<br> <br> Somewhere in the Internet I found "While Docker is a container runtime= ,<br> Kubernetes is a platform for running and managing containers from many<br> container runtimes".<br> <br> At next somebody will introduce a platform that does manage platforms<br> for platforms. An energy turnaround looks way different.<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span>-- </span><br><div dir=3D"lt= r">Mario.<br></div> --000000000000c2e8ea05f9680b73--
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