Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:41:43 +0900 From: "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp> To: Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu> Cc: David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? Message-ID: <CAASDrVnNuh%2BjT-%2BZFTriPELfOB78accBqGmrVUE-MDgDPZoicA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu> References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <CAASDrV=D6viCDJx9yT5CiNf1ukiz_Rp1k5wqpk92xSyiNQTEqg@mail.gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSuYq6JqzX=aHNgD=y5SUnBQ4x_Amk-6B0bvKc6kRQ5YVA@mail.gmail.com> <CAASDrVnxZ8MUmgCO-cFRVatUMQS1LHU-4XASSJckzp_FJbvd2w@mail.gmail.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <CAASDrVnuVfOsJvNuOsAQaHYRQqFenH%2B3=wNDBO5GR5j2KgxsxQ@mail.gmail.com> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu>
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Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel if FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...) However, the problem now is not the driver right? But the whole graphics stack which has to be rewritten to work with new generation graphics like KMS, Wayland, etc? On Thursday, September 17, 2015, Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:43:59PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > > On 17 Sep 2015, at 11:31, Lundberg, Johannes < > johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > Anyway, I wish the foundation would support the graphics team by > sponsoring this development=E2=80=A6 > > The Foundation did fund a lot of this work, and likely will again. The > problem is not > willingness of the Foundation to fund it, nor availability of funds. > > I was not aware of this and am happy to hear it! > > Long term, the real solution is to convince GPU vendors to put as much > effort into > funding FreeBSD driver development as they do into funding Linux and > Windows driver > development. The Foundation has been reaching out in this direction, > > Glad to hear this too. It is more comforting to hear. > > but it=E2=80=99s far more compelling if people can document cases where= lack of > FreeBSD support > has cost a vendor sales. If you=E2=80=99ve bought a system with an nVi= dia or > AMD GPU (or, > ideally, if your company has bought a few thousand) because of lack of > FreeBSD support > from Intel, then let Intel know. > > David > > In all seriousness, do you have a suggested contact for us? I can't offe= r > bulk sales > avoidance but on a personal level I am clinging to a 4.5 year old laptop > and would > replace it tomorrow with another higher end model if I had any practical > choices for > FreeBSD graphics support. Even nVidia is not a checkbox solution on > laptops because as > far as I understand it you still have to deal with Optimus which cannot > simply be > disabled as in the past. I also have considerable stability problems wit= h > the nVidia > driver on my desktops and I will be reporting it very soon after some > debugging. Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org <javascript:;> mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > <javascript:;>" --=20 -- Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. --=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =E7=A7=98=E5=AF=86=E4=BF=9D=E6=8C=81=E3=81=AB=E3=81=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81=A6=EF= =BC=9A=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E9=9B=BB=E5=AD=90=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81= =AF=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E3=81=AB=E9=80=81=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=97= =E3=81=9F=E3=82=82=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=82=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E7=A7=98=E5= =8C=BF=E7=89=B9=E6=A8=A9=E3=81=AE=E5=AF=BE=E8=B1=A1=E3=81=A8=E3=81=AA=E3=82= =8B=E6=83=85=E5=A0=B1=E3=82=92=E5=90=AB=E3=82=93=E3=81=A7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE= =E3=81=99=E3=80=82 =E3=82=82=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E4=BB=A5=E5=A4=96=E3= =81=AE=E6=96=B9=E3=81=8C=E5=8F=97=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E5=A0= =B4=E5=90=88=E3=80=81=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AE= =E7=A0=B4=E6=A3=84=E3=80=81=E3=81=8A=E3=82=88=E3=81=B3=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AB=E9=96=A2=E3=81=99=E3=82=8B=E4=B8=80=E5=88= =87=E3=81=AE=E9=96=8B=E7=A4=BA=E3=80=81 =E8=A4=87=E5=86=99=E3=80=81=E9=85=8D=E5=B8=83=E3=80=81=E3=81=9D=E3=81=AE=E4= =BB=96=E3=81=AE=E5=88=A9=E7=94=A8=E3=80=81=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AF=E8=A8= =98=E8=BC=89=E5=86=85=E5=AE=B9=E3=81=AB=E5=9F=BA=E3=81=A5=E3=81=8F=E3=81=84= =E3=81=8B=E3=81=AA=E3=82=8B=E8=A1=8C=E5=8B=95=E3=82=82=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3= =81=AA=E3=81=84=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=8A=E9=A1=98=E3=81=84=E7=94=B3=E3=81= =97=E4=B8=8A=E3=81=92=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. Disclosure, copying, distribution or any other action of use of this email by person other than intended recipient, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this email in error, please destroy the original message.
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