Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:35:25 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: User Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? Message-ID: <CAAdA2WPdEmcQ-0m14-r0hMUXuYu3joTA6TeAGwtdXhSL%2BRknwg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140720201251.3bdd2226.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> <CALfReycHtSi5GXgFZihrTsgDG6wc-ZfkYmQu7AjQmOKdeXntrA@mail.gmail.com> <CAEeRwNV3bJrM5KrGObZtNvSY1mVMW9jz2M4t2m2SSq_vvWmZ5w@mail.gmail.com> <CALfReyfWJd7YOi_Y8Mq=Q-xndLueF7vU5xwc1w_YGyM1a9DQZA@mail.gmail.com> <53CA2D39.6000204@sasktel.net> <CALfReyfkZY1ZDNohP6npRVQfjBK2M6j59R8idUGazr1yJDX3Jg@mail.gmail.com> <20140720123916.GV96250@e-new.0x20.net> <CAJcQMWe9=3PvOhfT8N-78N04A0u3OvkjOd-HPCiBUcJFZZb0-g@mail.gmail.com> <20140720134133.1d30f725@kan> <20140720201251.3bdd2226.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On 20 July 2014 21:12, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:41:33 -0400, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > > It was stated repeatedly by multiple people that FreeBSD's network > > stack is way too different from OpenBSD, we support features > > OpenBSD doesn't and vice versa, vimage is a good example, which throws a > > giant wrench into the plan of following OpenBSD 'as closely as > > possible', even as the expense of throwing away all of the SMP work > > done in pf to date. > > The difference between FreeBSD's and OpenBSD's network stack > is also a problem that you can hardly compensate by maintaining > two versions of pf, one provided with the system, one available > via ports (as FreeBSD 10 did with unbound / bind), and you also > would have to decide which version ("old" or "new") goes with > the OS and which comes from ports. Of course following a "moving > target" is much easier to do with ports (higher frequency of > changes is possible) than with an OS component, and I should > emphasize OS _core_ component, as pf is _very_ tightly integrated > with kernel and OS mechanisms. > > Learning a new syntax is the smallest problem here, and BSD folks > (as UNIX people in general) have a great reputation of being able > to learn new things, evaluate them, and use them as needed, in > comparison to those poor guys over in MICROS~1 land... ;-) > > So to summarize (probably): Someone needs to decide whether or not they want FreeBSD or OpenBSD when it comes to PF. It's a simple decision to make:) You draw a two-column table with FreeBSD and OpenBSD on each one, do your analysis and decide where to pledge your allegiance. Debate CLOSED! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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