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Date:      Sun, 4 Aug 2019 11:12:23 -0700
From:      Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>
To:        Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Niclas Zeising <zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se>, FreeBSD X11 mailing list <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Graphics Team Meeting Minutes
Message-ID:  <CAECmPwtHsGPbES%2B1ewytg=FuWmj0uC3W3ccPEn2VFZbmbt6Jow@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1ry2-rf1d-wny@FreeBSD.org>
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:38 PM Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:19 AM Niclas Zeising <
> zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2019-06-28 02:22, Jan Beich wrote:
> >> > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Greetings,
> >> >>
> >> >> Good news everyone! The FreeBSD project now has a MD repo for meeting
> >> >> minutes.
> >> >> I've uploaded all the meeting minutes notes for all our meetings
> through
> >> >> yesterday. This includes 3 meetings I've not posted here.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://github.com/freebsd/meetings/tree/master/graphics
> >> >
> >> > Looks like it hasn't been updated in ~4 months (according to GitHub).
> >> > What the team is working on besides DRM updates and port updates?
> >> > What are the current roadblocks, not those solved months ago?
> >> > What happened to creating a testing protocol for ports changes?
> >>
> >>
> >> We are working on getting the meeting notes out.  All of us have other
> >> matters to attend to as well, remember that all this is done on a
> >> volunteer basis.
>
> I'm a volunteer myself but not part of any team to understand what kind of
> issues meetings pose. Unfortunately, your canned reply doesn't shed light.
>
> >
> > Yea, I've dropped the ball here. I'd planned on doing a bulk update tphis
> > weekend, even before Jan's message...
>
> Ping. Is Warner the only "we" working on meeting minutes/notes? Did the
> team discuss ways to avoid delays in publishing notes during one of the
> said meetings?
>

Toxic attitudes ain't gonna make things move faster. How about joining the
meetings and actively participate instead of whining and complaining from
the sidelines as you always do?

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