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Date:      Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:15:42 -0700
From:      Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com>, George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: rcs
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On Oct 10, 2013 9:38 AM, "Julian Elischer" <julian@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On 10/11/13 12:34 AM, Jos Backus wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/9/13 11:59 PM, Jos Backus wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> OK, but please, can we replace RCS with Fossil in 11 then? That adds a
real
>>>> improvement to FreeBSD while giving people plenty of time to prepare.
>>>
>>> can fossil read rcs files? and how big is it compared to RCS?
>>
>>
>> It seems there's some thought on importing CVS repos but according to
'fossil help import', only the git fast-export format is supported.
>> In practice this means you'd loose history, yes. But it's not hard to
keep the old RCS files somewhere else in case that history is needed.
>>
>> http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Import+CVS+Repositories
>>
>> I just built devel/fossil and it yields a single binary,
/usr/local/bin/fossil which clocks in at 1.8M. Given all the functionality
it provides (plus it is in a similar class as git, see
http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/tip/www/fossil-v-git.wiki), I
think that's a steal.
>>
>> It was started by the author of SQlite. If we require some kind of
version control system in the base that's powerful, well-maintained and
BSD-licensed, this really seems like a no-brainer.
>
>
> well since people expect RCS.. it is not a no brainer.
> you are asking people to learn  a whole new tool  for functionality that
is currently very simple..
> edit file
> ci -l file
>     add comment.

Such is the price of progress. I envy people who don't have to learn
anything new in order to stay employed  :-)

Jos

>
>
>
>>
>> Jos
>> --
>> Jos Backus
>> jos at catnook.com
>
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