Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:00:04 +0100 From: Thomas Zander <thomas.e.zander@googlemail.com> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Michael Scheidell <scheidell@freebsd.org>, ehaupt@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Edwin Groothuis <edwin@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: ports/164244: multimedia/mplayer: last update (1.0.r20111218) conflicts with devel/ncurses Message-ID: <CAFU734zATQ47FQkOXPzjux1qAc=JcXcd6%2BHHiFjLeBGN5w0%2BaQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120119170425.GD23733@lonesome.com> References: <4F159530.3030306@freebsd.org> <20120119170425.GD23733@lonesome.com>
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 18:04, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > So if there's breakage, then it needs to be first understood, then > dealt with. =A0If there is no other way than the horrible backout/PORTEPO= CH > dance, then so be it. That's correct. However I think that in this situation there was no need to consider a PORTEPOCH. It was not the first temporary build problem that one of the 15k ports has and it certainly won't be the last. On a side note: I am actually proud to work with a project where one can spot a problem, report it, discuss solutions and patches and have it fixed in the official repository in (looking at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D164244) less than 20 hours! There are many prestigious projects out there that cannot keep up with FreeBSD in this regard. Just sayin'. > But the takeaway is that we can't expect the PR submitters, or even > port maintainers, to get anything right. =A0It sure makes life easier > when they do, but we can't take it for granted. > As committers, we are that QA step. And we maintainers appreciate that there is a QA step represented by a committer. Trust me, I do! Still there is always the possibility that even a committer can't foresee every possible side effect that a commit could have. The main point remains imho that we as a group are able to find problems fast and fix them quickly, as we have done in this case. Regards, Riggs
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