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Date:      Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:41:54 -0400
From:      William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com>
To:        Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: how do I get STARTTLS working with sendmail on FreeBSD 10.3 ?
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There's another layer in there, popd or imapd or whatever, but the point
is, I've been
using sendmail on FreeBSD for at least a decade.  I had STARTTLS working
with sendmail
just last year.  So your assertion that I have to run some other MTA could
not be true.

But thanks for your time.  I welcome all suggestions, even ones that don't
pan out.

Bill Dudley


This email is free of malware because I run Linux.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On 3/22/17 8:32 PM, William Dudley wrote:
>
>> I have news for you.  Unless this feature was just removed from
>> sendmail/FreeBSD, it should
>> work.  It WAS WORKING until November 2016.
>>
>
> That would be news. I guess you have a super Sendmail that listens for and
> accepts POP3(s)/IMAP(s) connections. That would be interesting since
> Sendmail is an SMTP(s) server. I won't bother you again since you are
> clearly more knowledgeable than I.
>
>
>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in
>> <mailto:jim@ohlste.in>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello,
>>
>>     On 3/18/17 6:44 PM, William Dudley wrote:
>>
>>         A google search does not reveal a useful answer.
>>
>>         I just want to use a self-signed certificate so I can get my
>>         email from my
>>         FreeBSD mail server to my cell phone.  My FreeBSD server runs
>>         sendmail.
>>         I don't really want to switch to postfix, qmail, etc. etc.
>>
>>
>>     I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you after all this time and
>>     effort, but AFAIK Sendmail speaks neither POP3 nor IMAP so you
>>     cannot use it as an MDA. You can use it to *send* email from your
>>     phone, but not to retrieve it. You also can use it to forward mails
>>     to another email address from which you can retrieve it, of that's
>>     what you want.
>>
>>     If you want to retrieve emails using your phone's email client, you
>>     will need an MDA. I use mail/dovecot2.
>>
>>     I know that you do not want to install a different MTA, but after
>>     all this effort I'd suggest trying Exim. TLS is supported out of the
>>     box (in the default ports/packages configuration) and is extremely
>>     easy to configure [1]. You can use Dovecot authorization [2] with
>>     Exim, killing two birds with one stone.
>>
>>     [1]
>>     http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-
>> encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html
>>     <http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/
>> ch-encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html>
>>     - see Section 6
>>
>>     [2] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/EximAndDovecotSASL
>>     <http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/EximAndDovecotSASL>;
>>
>>     --
>>     Jim Ohlstein
>>
>>
>>     "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
>>     difference." - Mark Twain
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jim Ohlstein
>
>
> "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
> difference." - Mark Twain
>



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