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Date:      Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:24:25 -0500
From:      Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Lorenzo Cogotti <miciamail@hotmail.it>
Subject:   Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <CAGsORuB4yd8RKNLRWmcTx16iDOHWJkD1rnyArb98NwN%2BpwvPHA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@freebsd.org> wrote:
> In message <CAGsORuAnDs_E=L747+tP95NxjxDonNsQfVfCo+xd2HjSJ-uOnA@mail.gmail.com>
> , Zhihao Yuan writes:
>>On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
>>> In message <BLU0-SMTP510B16745B704C714268E2D5950@phx.gbl>, Lorenzo Cogotti writ
>>> es:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>I was wondering about the possibility of FreeBSD to provide an official
>>>>supported graphical environment.
>>>
>>> We already do:  It's called "X11" :-)
>>
>>How about Wikipedia "graphical environment" before u say this?
>
> How about you try to install ports/x11-vm/twm, turn your CPU
> speed down to 20 MHz and get a good feel for how a graphical
> environment felt 25 years ago, before you make a fool of yourself ?
>
> :-)
>
> There is no way that FreeBSD is going to annoint a canonical
> window manager (look that up too!), we've been down that road
> before and the landscape is ugly and filled with bikesheds.
>
> My suggest was 100% serious:  Assume X11 _is_ the graphical
> environment, pick a toolkit which is written to work with
> any window manager, which all good toolkits are, and move on.

You can "assume", but you can't deny that X11 is not GUI at all, and
twm is not a modern GUI either.

>
> --
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.



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