Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 01:23:00 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" <illoai@gmail.com> To: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: x11 hangs unkillable on 10.0-BETA1 Message-ID: <CAHHBGkpN2hdTyk6XGFid%2BN8ifhEhbV=TuYs2S3w%2BNc%2BFa-YNWQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1vpiMPp6kBkXAJ%2BUfiN%2Bz336WiZovcYXW2c3i9eSTZBSA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20131027011829.GA98327@lyxys.ka.sub.org> <CAHHBGkps8wHbkMqQBx4zw=eV9v3MkuC1KaJmLCSAVKB3WN3ojA@mail.gmail.com> <CAN6yY1vpiMPp6kBkXAJ%2BUfiN%2Bz336WiZovcYXW2c3i9eSTZBSA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 27 October 2013 01:10, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com> wrot= e: >> >> On 26 October 2013 21:18, Wolfgang Zenker <wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org> >> wrote: >> > Testing 10.0-BETA1 on an old IBM T42p Laptop, after a while Xorg start= s >> > to use 100% CPU, stops to update the screen and does not accept any >> > input anymore. I can still work from remote via ssh; top shows Xorg >> > using >> > up 100% CPU most of the time. Trying to kill or even kill -9 the Xorg >> > process does not result in an error message but fails to terminate the >> > process. >> > >> > What information would be helpful to debug this? >> > >> >> Screams of the tormented? Basically, I debug [X] by disabling >> features until it doesn't lock up, & then I use those settings until >> it causes lockups (from updates). >> >> mplayer would reliably lock Xorg if I used (or allowed) vo=3Dsdl >> or higher (gl, gl2, whatever). vo=3Dx11 a) never locks up xorg & >> 4) doesn't allow resizing of windows to scale the player. Oh f'well. >> >> Summary: >> Xorg on FreeBSD is a crap shoot based on your card. IIRC a T42 >> is one of those terrible i915 or something video cards. Ugh. > > > I am surprised by this. I have a T42 with the Intel 3000 graphics card an= d > it has worked quite well for me. I use mplayer, vlc, and (primarily) xine= on > it. I use the default video output device for all. I thought the default > was Xv, but I could well be wrong. It's been working for me on stable for > well over a year. I started using it when kib made patches available, but= I > have been running the committed version. > > Just to confirm, you have WITH_NEW_XORG=3DYES and WITH_KMS=3DYES in > /etc/make.conf and have built all X ports and the kernel with these optio= ns. No*, AMD, but I've had my fill of Intel naughtiness lo many years ago. I've essentially defaulted to the equivalent of VESA, given the horrors that lie within the realms of DRM & DRI & GL. The problem is manifold, but no matter what the Xorg (& FBSD DRM) driver writers do, the hardware manufacturers move to weirder & odder methods of displaying (or desplaying, if you're trying to follow allonge in mi=FEle =E6nglisc) your graphical content. Oddly enough, they seem to have a rather short turnaround on their Windows=99 drivers. Anyway, don't trust new technology, unless it directly benefits you, & even then, don't trust it. *None of those settings, but how does that affect your situation? --=20 --
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