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Date:      Thu, 1 Feb 2024 13:12:43 +0100
From:      Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com>
To:        FreeBSD virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org>
Subject:   If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD?
Message-ID:  <CAHieY7Q2hFoNiruGof81UuomFs5Z%2B6o186d_%2BY8w7JuoQWpitg@mail.gmail.com>

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I made the title provocative for a flame but in good faith, so hear me out
;-)

Being a FreeBSD user for many years I perfectly understand why supporting
Docker is useless outside of virtualization or just for fun. I only put it
in the subject to get your attention.

But can the same be said of Kubernetes? In the understanding that k8s
relies on some Linux specific things like namespaces and control groups
etc. but we have similar utilities that could be used, so not sure why no
serious effort to port k8s to BSD so far...

Moreover, why is there not a serious alternative to Kubernetes-like, or a
FreeBSd native Kubernetes port, at this point in 2024 ? I've read comments
about Nomad but does it actually work with Bastille for example ? I mean we
have all the building blocks, and we invented "container" so wtf is there
no similar orchestration and auto scaling jail technology at our disposal
on FBSD so far ?

What am I missing?

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I made the title provocative for a flame but in good faith=
, so hear me out ;-)<div><br></div><div>Being a FreeBSD user for many years=
 I perfectly understand why supporting Docker is useless outside of virtual=
ization=C2=A0or just for fun. I only put it in the subject to get your atte=
ntion.</div><div><br></div><div>But can the same be said of Kubernetes? In =
the understanding that k8s relies on some Linux specific things like namesp=
aces and control groups etc. but we have similar utilities that could be us=
ed, so not sure why no serious effort to port k8s to BSD so far...</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Moreover, why is there not a serious alternative to Kubern=
etes-like, or a FreeBSd native Kubernetes port, at this point in 2024 ? I&#=
39;ve read comments about Nomad but does it actually work with Bastille for=
 example ? I mean we have all the building blocks, and we invented &quot;co=
ntainer&quot; so wtf is there no similar orchestration and auto scaling jai=
l technology=C2=A0at our disposal on FBSD so far ?</div><div><br></div><div=
>What am I missing?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>

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