Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:32:49 +0100 From: Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> To: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> Cc: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>, FreeBSD virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD? Message-ID: <CAHieY7Sb5Q2tvUWgQPyeDVAvZDDZr2D7pB4cCi2hBmRGSawEEg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B1FSihVeYaqDaMo16hs9CkQb2kJRi08ODUpKg7kuKML%2B9CR9w@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHieY7Q2hFoNiruGof81UuomFs5Z%2B6o186d_%2BY8w7JuoQWpitg@mail.gmail.com> <CAAdA2WNFWDUdGR6rboGVBojCx9USPi1oNOFQOw%2ByYOENUek5tQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijA6w%2BKmxuNcweH5txmKL70ObL9h1OrF_JzTt-JLkVrjA@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7SFHAEQVdu75ffdpghXZzsxZqMXaKtxUFS0ZUYLM14yDA@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihg2Q_cnpxFpWaPn_M8qziCqMw=o7DWjYWXGR4RKki12w@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7Tmw0aqgVSmM5A5zC6ULW4dNANXCqGv8c=kxCzFF9Dh6g@mail.gmail.com> <c849e14b-a612-dc0b-e0a0-0586386aa1fa@redbarn.org> <CA%2B1FSijet4G3nS97ZjA6jsZC=SJ5gKzxKxDyqkQUtasCi3Lw9A@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7ST9z90=oO92z21fXCXNnU6fAz3HxZ_ccBud4FtfeTsKA@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihVeYaqDaMo16hs9CkQb2kJRi08ODUpKg7kuKML%2B9CR9w@mail.gmail.com>
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--000000000000334dfd061066fdf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.c= om> wrote: > Alejandro,I'm not sure if you are aware that the discussion at a certain > point has broadened and deepened. I don't understand why I can't propose > an alternative to the actual jail and jail managers that you are talking > about. And no. On the L4 website there is a userland based on new version= s > of Ubuntu and Debian that can be used with the microkernel offered. They > also say that FreeBSD can be compiled,too,using the same technique used t= o > build the Linux userland proposed. If you want to talk about containers,w= hy > not also add the microkernel topic,that's not a container,but its working > can be compared to the microservices offered by Linux and FreeBSD if they > run with a microkernel. > > Never said you can't propose it, it just seems off-topic to this thread. Maybe start a new thread on microkernel versus X. This thread is about containers and container configuration, auto-scaling, discovery, updating and monitoring, etc. What I usually do in this case is start a new thread with a new subject and (was: xxx). That way, people interested in that branch of the discussion can continue on its own topic, and the mail archives can do a better job for later research. BTW, I think what you are saying already exists and macOS is exactly that: the FreeBSD core and the mach microkernel. Best, --=20 Alex --000000000000334dfd061066fdf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFP= M Mario Marietto <<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com">marietto2008= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;= border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Aleja= ndro,I'm not sure if you are aware that the discussion at a certain poi= nt <span lang=3D"en"><span><span>has broadened and deepened. I don't un= derstand why I can't propose an alternative to the actual jail and jail= managers that you are talking about. And no. On the L4 website there is a = userland based on new versions of Ubuntu and Debian that can be used with t= he microkernel offered. They also say that FreeBSD can be compiled,too,usin= g the same technique used to build the Linux userland proposed. If you want= to talk about containers,why not also add the microkernel topic,that's= not a container,but its working can be compared to the microservices offer= ed by Linux and FreeBSD if they run with a microkernel. </span></span></spa= n><span></span><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Never = said you can't propose it, it just seems off-topic to this thread. Mayb= e start a new thread on microkernel versus X.=C2=A0</div><div>This thread i= s about containers and container configuration, auto-scaling, discovery, up= dating and monitoring, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>What I usually do in t= his case is start a new thread with a new subject and (was: xxx).=C2=A0</di= v><div>That way, people interested in that branch of the discussion can con= tinue on its own topic, and the mail archives can do a better job for later= research.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, I think what you are saying alread= y exists and macOS is exactly that: the FreeBSD core and the mach microkern= el.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0<= /div><div>Alex</div></div></div> --000000000000334dfd061066fdf6--
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