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Date:      Sun, 17 Mar 2024 13:48:21 +0900
From:      Seigo Tanimura <seigo.tanimura@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kib@freebsd.org>, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: c849eb8f1925 - main - nullfs: Add the vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes sysctl to control nocache default [unknown oid 'vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes']
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Hello Mark,

Is the nullfs(5) kernel module loaded?

vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes is implemented in nullfs(5), which is not in GENERIC=
.

Best regards,

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Seigo Tanimura <seigo.tanimura@gmail.com>


On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:18=E2=80=AFPM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wr=
ote:

> Both an official PkgBase install and a personal build do not find the new
> oid for this for main:
>
> # uname -apKU
> FreeBSD 7950X3D-ZFS 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT
> main-n268827-75464941dc17 GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 amd64 1500015 1500015
>
> # uname -apKU
> FreeBSD 7950X3D-ZFS 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #139
> main-n268827-75464941dc17-dirty: Sun Mar 17 03:16:30 UTC 2024
>  root@7950X3D-ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd=
64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG
> amd64 amd64 1500015 1500015
>
> The results are:
>
> # sysctl -d vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes
> sysctl: unknown oid 'vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes'
>
> # sysctl -a | grep vnode
> kern.maxvnodes: 3224925
> kern.ipc.umtx_vnode_persistent: 0
> vm.vnode_pbufs: 2048
> vm.stats.vm.v_vnodepgsout: 0
> vm.stats.vm.v_vnodepgsin: 4923
> vm.stats.vm.v_vnodeout: 0
> vm.stats.vm.v_vnodein: 662
> vfs.wantfreevnodes: 806231
> vfs.freevnodes: 1323
> vfs.vnodes_created: 3654
> vfs.numvnodes: 1807
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.uma_reclaim_calls: 0
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.kicks: 0
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.max_free_per_call: 10000
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.failed_runs: 0
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.direct_recycles_free: 0
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.recycles_free: 0
> vfs.vnode.vnlru.recycles: 0
> vfs.vnode.stats.alloc_sleeps: 0
> vfs.vnode.stats.free: 1323
> vfs.vnode.stats.skipped_requeues: 0
> vfs.vnode.stats.created: 3654
> vfs.vnode.stats.count: 1807
> vfs.vnode.param.wantfree: 806231
> vfs.vnode.param.limit: 3224925
> vfs.cache.debug.vnodes_cel_3_failures: 0
> vfs.cache.stats.heldvnodes: 119
> debug.vnode_domainset: <NULL>
> debug.sizeof.vnode: 448
> debug.fail_point.status_fill_kinfo_vnode__random_path: off
> debug.fail_point.fill_kinfo_vnode__random_path: off
>
> Note: The mount_nullfs man page does have:
>
> QUOTE
>              cache    Force enable metadata caching.
>
>      The vfs.nullfs.cache_vnodes sysctl specifies global default for moun=
t-
>      specific cache/nocache option.
> END QUOTE
>
> That is evidence of the vintage of materials.
>
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mark,</div><div><br></div><div>Is the nullfs(5)=
 kernel module loaded?<br></div><div><br></div><div>vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes =
is implemented in nullfs(5), which is not in GENERIC.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Best regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>--</div><div>Seigo Tanimura &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seigo.tanimura@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">seigo.tanimura@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div></div></div=
></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:18=E2=80=AFPM Mark Millard &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:marklmi@yahoo.com">marklmi@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Both an official PkgBa=
se install and a personal build do not find the new oid for this for main:<=
br>
<br>
# uname -apKU<br>
FreeBSD 7950X3D-ZFS 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT main-n268827-75464941=
dc17 GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 amd64 1500015 1500015<br>
<br>
# uname -apKU<br>
FreeBSD 7950X3D-ZFS 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #139 main-n268827-754=
64941dc17-dirty: Sun Mar 17 03:16:30 UTC 2024=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0root@7950X=
3D-ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/sys/=
GENERIC-NODBG amd64 amd64 1500015 1500015<br>
<br>
The results are:<br>
<br>
# sysctl -d vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes<br>
sysctl: unknown oid &#39;vfs.nullfs.cache_nodes&#39;<br>
<br>
# sysctl -a | grep vnode<br>
kern.maxvnodes: 3224925<br>
kern.ipc.umtx_vnode_persistent: 0<br>
vm.vnode_pbufs: 2048<br>
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodepgsout: 0<br>
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodepgsin: 4923<br>
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodeout: 0<br>
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodein: 662<br>
vfs.wantfreevnodes: 806231<br>
vfs.freevnodes: 1323<br>
vfs.vnodes_created: 3654<br>
vfs.numvnodes: 1807<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.uma_reclaim_calls: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.kicks: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.max_free_per_call: 10000<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.failed_runs: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.direct_recycles_free: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.recycles_free: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.vnlru.recycles: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.stats.alloc_sleeps: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.stats.free: 1323<br>
vfs.vnode.stats.skipped_requeues: 0<br>
vfs.vnode.stats.created: 3654<br>
vfs.vnode.stats.count: 1807<br>
vfs.vnode.param.wantfree: 806231<br>
vfs.vnode.param.limit: 3224925<br>
vfs.cache.debug.vnodes_cel_3_failures: 0<br>
vfs.cache.stats.heldvnodes: 119<br>
debug.vnode_domainset: &lt;NULL&gt;<br>
debug.sizeof.vnode: 448<br>
debug.fail_point.status_fill_kinfo_vnode__random_path: off<br>
debug.fail_point.fill_kinfo_vnode__random_path: off<br>
<br>
Note: The mount_nullfs man page does have:<br>
<br>
QUOTE<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cache=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Force en=
able metadata caching.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The vfs.nullfs.cache_vnodes sysctl specifies global def=
ault for mount-<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0specific cache/nocache option.<br>
END QUOTE<br>
<br>
That is evidence of the vintage of materials.<br>
<br>
=3D=3D=3D<br>
Mark Millard<br>
marklmi at <a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">yahoo.com</a><br>
<br>
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