Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:54:36 +0800 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer. Message-ID: <CAJ-Vmo=b9X=87WQGhCyR66DbedUJciPzN8OghXxqToE4gdTx3A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E2CB4AC.3070403@orange.fr> References: <20110724162937.33865zm0kn4ztdwk@econet.encontacto.net> <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org> <4E2CB4AC.3070403@orange.fr>
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.. wait, the install-off-USB doesn't default to a read-only boot? Adrian On 25 July 2011 08:11, Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr> wrote: > On 07/24/2011 23:33, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> >> On 07/24/11 16:29, eculp wrote: >>> >>> I have been hearing about a new installer but I obviously have not >>> payed enough attention, I am afraid. I started running freebsd at 2.0 >>> and never really had a problem with understanding the installation >>> program. =A0There is always a first time, I guess. >>> >>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201105/ >>> >>> When booting I seem to get a screen that makes me remember installer >>> screens of the 1980s. =A0(They were not exactly intuitive.) >>> >>> I somehow got the idea that the new installer was graphic. =A0Maybe >>> something like PCBsd that is not bad at all. =A0I use it on all our >>> employees computers. =A0Actually, after seeing this, I would love to >>> have the old installer back. =A0Is their an option for that? >>> >>> Does this new ASCII installer have a "how to" with a bit of >>> information on the flow of the installation. >>> >>> Thanks, >> >> Can you please describe what you didn't like about it, and what you >> would prefer be changed? "Reminiscent of the 1980s" is not really >> helpful, especially given that the new installer in fact looks very much >> like sysinstall, which you seemed to like. >> -Nathan > > Recently I installed a system from the "official" memory stick May snapsh= ot > (FreeBSD-9.0-CURRENT-201105-amd64-memstick.img). here are a few remarks: > > - the 1st thing I need to do is to configure the keyboard, as I am not in > the > US. This is needed for an install, but also for using it as a live system= . > And > the keyboard configuration dialog is only a part of the installation > procedure. > > - the partition tool is too simple/rudimentary, compared to the old > sysinstall > dialog. I always want to have a total control of the partitions e.g. to h= ave > a > proper alignement. So one must use the shell escape or the live system, > which is > a regression. > > - extracting the tarballs lead to (cryptic) errors: I discovered the hard > way > that I needed to execute a newfs. > > - I followed a succession of screens asking me to do the usual configurat= ion > steps (hostname, clock, network - IPv4 only ?? -, users) and at the end I > get > back a screen asking me if a wanted to do the steps I had done just > before... > > - booting the installed system, I found that the hostname disappeared, th= e > keyboard was not configured, nor the network, and so on > > - during the whole process the screen was scrambled by the occurence of a > number > of LORs displayed on top of the dialogs/messages of the installer. > > - the file system of the installer/live system seems to be too small, > leading to > a number of "system full" messages as soon a few files are written to it. > > So the sole value added of the installer was the extraction of the > tarballs.. > > It seems that (on a memory stick which is writable) that every aborted > attempt > to do a configuration step leaves a "trace" in some files used by the > installer, > which is able to show it (e.g. the hostname) at the following attempts, b= ut > without garantee that it will effectively be used. > > (On the other hand, the advantage of the memory stick is that the system = on > it > can be configured at will) > > Referring to a thread I found recently a propos the documentation on the > install > media, I also want to say that a proper installer must be able to do its > work > without any Internet connectivity. There exist systems which are not > connected, > and networks without any communication with the Internet. > > Claude Buisson > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " >
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