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Date:      Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:31:47 -0800
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>
Cc:        tor-relays@lists.torproject.org, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [tor-relays] FreeBSD's global IP ID (was: Platform diversity in Tor network)
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... that's .. odd.

Let's poke the freebsd crypto and network stack people and ask. I
can't imagine why this is a problem anymore and we should default to
it being on. The other thing you could do is have the tor port require
it be turned on before tor runs.


-adrian

On 7 November 2014 00:20, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Philipp Winter <phw@nymity.ch> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:04:41AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
>>>  173 FreeBSD
>>
>> FreeBSD still seems to use globally incrementing IP IDs by default.
>> That's an issue as it leaks fine-grained information about how many
>> packets a relay's networking stack processes.  (However, nobody
>> investigated the exact impact on Tor relays so far, which makes this a
>> FUD-heavy topic.) It looks like approximately 50 out of the 131 FreeBSD
>> relays I tested (38%) use global IP IDs.
>>
>> There's a sysctl variable called "net.inet.ip.random_id" which makes a
>> FreeBSD's IP ID behaviour random.  FreeBSD relay operators should set
>> this to "1".
>>
>> Note that this issue was already discussed earlier this year in a thread
>> called "Lots of tor relays send out sequential IP IDs; please fix
>> that!".
>
> It's been default off since before it was a sysctl over a decade ago.
> Anyone know what the deal is with that? Some objection, or
> forgotten flag day, or oversight that really should be set to 1?
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=133720
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