Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:55:08 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> Cc: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>, Andy Young <ayoung@mosaicarchive.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? Message-ID: <CAKR2__3C2r1LTk3Sf0w52Jjp3KZhPduqrN0vsvr1VCCb%2BtF4UQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAOgwaMv_9c_W4fek-kGhQV3B5bKv4RnEFn_6ixn2LS7qDPma6Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHMRaQf=M0ULOH=KnqzOXvczSM0Lb6apCoQkJegqyU3e8%2BgShA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1204272025080.5846@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20120427203117.GA2055@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <CAOgwaMv_9c_W4fek-kGhQV3B5bKv4RnEFn_6ixn2LS7qDPma6Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: > Another point is that server installers are highly educated with respect = to > desktop installers and their numbers are small with respect to desktop > users . > > For them , it is very easy to "harden" FreeBSD after installation if ever > it is needed , because during installation , it is a simple question to a= sk > : > > Will =C2=A0this be used as a Server ? Judging from the amount of effort it takes to "harden" a system that already starts a thousand services (typical "desktop Linux" scenario these days), and the number of times I've seen this sort of customization cause even more headaches, I'd say this is a slightly exaggerated statement. You are right that a "plain user" does not care about why their CD-ROM is not accessible after installation, but there are two different ways to approach this: - Install and enable everything by default, hoping that nothing bad happens when an unused service is exploitable. - Install a minimal system and build from there. Most Linux distributions pick the first option. _Some_ Linux distributions pick the second option (e.g. Gentoo). The default FreeBSD installation uses the second option. PC-BSD leans towards the first option, and does a really good job at making a BSD desktop 'accessible' to what is usually called "the average user". So it all depends on what you want to do, and there _are_ options that cover both cases for either Linux or BSD.
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