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Date:      Sat, 8 Oct 2022 14:52:33 -0700
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com>
To:        David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pkg upgrade vs building from source
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freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
12.3-RELEASE-p6
12.3-RELEASE
12.3-RELEASE-p7
FreeBSD www.paulbeard.org 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126 GENERIC
 i386 1203000 1203000

pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority
    url             : "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly
",
    enabled         : yes,
    priority        : 0,


On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 2:41 PM David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
wrote:

> On 10/8/22 08:35, paul beard wrote:
>  > My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent events.
>
>  > I allowed [pkg] to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered that
> it no longer worked;
>
>  > How do other people manage this?
>
>
> I have operated a FreeBSD SOHO server 24x7 for 3+ years, starting with
> FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64,  I strive to keep my systems as simple and
> "official" as possible.  I have never seen any problems that I could
> attribute to freebsd-update(1) or pkg(1).
>
>
> My upgrade mantra is:
>
> # freebsd-update fetch install
>
> # pkg update
>
> # pkg upgrade
>
> # pkg autoremove
>
> # pkg clean
>
>
> On 10/8/22 13:18, paul beard wrote:
>  > On 10/8/22 11:11, Graham Perrin wrote:
>  >> Which version of FreeBSD, exactly?
>  >>
>  > FreeBSD www.paulbeard.org 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126
> GENERIC
>  >   i386
>  >
>  >
>  >> Packages from latest, or quarterly?
>  >>
>  > Hm…whatever pkg update pulls
>  >>
>  >> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
>  >>
>  > See above.
>
>
> For comparison:
>
> 2022-10-08 14:03:04 toor@f3 ~
> # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
> 12.3-RELEASE-p6
> 12.3-RELEASE-p6
> 12.3-RELEASE-p7
> FreeBSD f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com 12.3-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD
> 12.3-RELEASE-p6 GENERIC  amd64 1203000 1203000
>
>
> I do not see any freebsd-version(1) output in your output, above.
>
>
> I do not see a patch level in your uname(1) output, above.
>
>
> The most obvious difference is that you are running i386 and I am
> running amd64.  That is not supposed to matter.
>
>
>  > pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority
>  >
>  >      url             :
> "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly
>  > ",
>  >      enabled         : yes,
>  >      priority        : 0,
>
>
> For comparison:
>
> 2022-10-08 14:03:12 toor@f3 ~
> # pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority
>      url             :
> "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly",
>      enabled         : yes,
>      priority        : 0,
>
>
> David
>
>

-- 
Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/

[-- Attachment #2 --]
<div dir="ltr">freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU<br>12.3-RELEASE-p6<br>12.3-RELEASE<br>12.3-RELEASE-p7<br>FreeBSD <a href="http://www.paulbeard.org">www.paulbeard.org</a>; 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126 GENERIC  i386 1203000 1203000<br><div><br></div><div>pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority<br>    url             : &quot;pkg+<a href="http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly">http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly</a>&quot;,<br>    enabled         : yes,<br>    priority        : 0,<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 2:41 PM David Christensen &lt;<a href="mailto:dpchrist@holgerdanske.com">dpchrist@holgerdanske.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 10/8/22 08:35, paul beard wrote:<br>
 &gt; My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent events.<br>
<br>
 &gt; I allowed [pkg] to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered that <br>
it no longer worked;<br>
<br>
 &gt; How do other people manage this?<br>
<br>
<br>
I have operated a FreeBSD SOHO server 24x7 for 3+ years, starting with <br>
FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64,  I strive to keep my systems as simple and <br>
&quot;official&quot; as possible.  I have never seen any problems that I could <br>
attribute to freebsd-update(1) or pkg(1).<br>
<br>
<br>
My upgrade mantra is:<br>
<br>
# freebsd-update fetch install<br>
<br>
# pkg update<br>
<br>
# pkg upgrade<br>
<br>
# pkg autoremove<br>
<br>
# pkg clean<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/8/22 13:18, paul beard wrote:<br>
 &gt; On 10/8/22 11:11, Graham Perrin wrote:<br>
 &gt;&gt; Which version of FreeBSD, exactly?<br>
 &gt;&gt;<br>
 &gt; FreeBSD <a href="http://www.paulbeard.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.paulbeard.org</a> 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126 <br>
GENERIC<br>
 &gt;   i386<br>
 &gt;<br>
 &gt;<br>
 &gt;&gt; Packages from latest, or quarterly?<br>
 &gt;&gt;<br>
 &gt; Hm…whatever pkg update pulls<br>
 &gt;&gt;<br>
 &gt;&gt; freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU<br>
 &gt;&gt;<br>
 &gt; See above.<br>
<br>
<br>
For comparison:<br>
<br>
2022-10-08 14:03:04 toor@f3 ~<br>
# freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU<br>
12.3-RELEASE-p6<br>
12.3-RELEASE-p6<br>
12.3-RELEASE-p7<br>
FreeBSD <a href="http://f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com</a> 12.3-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD <br>
12.3-RELEASE-p6 GENERIC  amd64 1203000 1203000<br>
<br>
<br>
I do not see any freebsd-version(1) output in your output, above.<br>
<br>
<br>
I do not see a patch level in your uname(1) output, above.<br>
<br>
<br>
The most obvious difference is that you are running i386 and I am <br>
running amd64.  That is not supposed to matter.<br>
<br>
<br>
 &gt; pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority<br>
 &gt;<br>
 &gt;      url             : <br>
&quot;pkg+<a href="http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly</a><br>;
 &gt; &quot;,<br>
 &gt;      enabled         : yes,<br>
 &gt;      priority        : 0,<br>
<br>
<br>
For comparison:<br>
<br>
2022-10-08 14:03:12 toor@f3 ~<br>
# pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority<br>
     url             : <br>
&quot;pkg+<a href="http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly</a>&quot;,<br>;
     enabled         : yes,<br>
     priority        : 0,<br>
<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Paul Beard / <a href="http://www.paulbeard.org/" target="_blank">www.paulbeard.org/</a><br></div>

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